Bond

Check the other threads, but to sum it all up:

gojets = Inability to jumpseat (suddenly weight restricted after checking their I.D.'s), no respect from your peers in the industry (they won't even make eye contact with the rest of us in the industry), and a gamble with your career as more and more former regional pilots take recruiting jobs at the majors.

If that isn't enough for you, try this on; one of my best friends a former TSA guy with a wife and newborn was furloughed as a direct result of the creation of gojets, which as stated above, was created to circumvent the collective bargaining agreement with the TSA pilots.

gojets = lowest common denominator in aviation.

DO NOT GO THERE!

Fly Gal

This came up pretty quick in the thread. That should give you an idea of what alot of people think of that place.

On a side note, has anyone ever admitted to flying for gojets? I don't recall ever seeing a post from anyone there.

AirWillie

Bond judging from your past posts based on emotion and the fact that you keep bringing up the story of your friend over and over as if GJ pilots are at fault, we can't take you seriously. And by the way TSA pilots had a say and they voted no, they weren't going to get that flying. Your story doesn't make any sense, why would an airline form GJ to get around TSA CBA when in the end they give GJ better pay and contract. Sorry you'd like to believe what your best friend has told you but look at the facts.

whiskey72

Get it right it was created as an
ALTER EGO

AirWillie

Separate airline, and there are other GJ types.

Bond

I don't expect gojets pilots to take anything seriously, they didn't when the company was created, why would they start now? This post is to sustain the awareness of what a shady and unethical operation gojets is.

Pilots from gojets represent a small but detested segment of the industry which like the scabs of the 80's, are not concerned with the well being of anyone else in the industry other than themselves; and whom would gladly cross any line, including one that circumvents a legitimate collective bargaining agreement.

Copperhed51

Depends on who you talk to. I was talking to a former TSA captain today who said he'd go there if he wasn't comfortable where he was at now. Talked to a former AA captain who knows the situation there and said he'd go there. Talked to plenty of corporate and fractional guys who said they'd go there if they were me. Most of the people you talk to who will tell you not to go there are people on these forums who have gotten it in their heads that they are better than GoJet pilots and use GoJet as their scapegoat to justify their crappy regional job.

Yes they began the airline to basically screw the TSA pilots out of money that they wanted. Yes they're represented by teamsters now. Yes the airline is one of few that is hiring and growing currently.

As for the denial of jumpseat privileges, I've heard it happens, but rarely. Look at it this way, how good are your jumpseat privileges going to be when you're working at Walmart? The entire anti-GoJet philosophy seems to exist solely as a way for people to feel like they belong. As for GoJet bringing down the industry and pay and quality of life, etc, I could make the same argument for every single regional airline in existence today.

Just realize that the anti-GoJet people are out there in full force and you could be hurting some of your career opportunities in the future. At the same time, not flying could hurt your career opportunities in the future. Good luck whatever you decide to do.

AirWillie

Sorry you're full of it, we've got plenty of mainline guys with 20K hours with friends at ALPA we all laugh at how absurd this all is.

Bond

As far as pay there are 5 companies including mine that pay better to fly a 50 seater than gojets on a 70 seater. As a matter of fact those of us who are here and everywhere else educating the masses are very happy with our respective companies.

I've personally witness 6 events in the past year or so, where we suddendly became overweight as soon as they attempted to get into the jumpseat. In talking to friends and other folks at other carriers, they have also witness such events....certainly not a myth.

I am glad you at least recognize that the company was created to "screw" the TSA pilots; that's a step in the right direction.

Bond

I doubt it, ALPA members don't usually forget a slap in the face, maybe I can interest you in reading "Flying the line Vol I and II", but perhaps it will make you poignant.

I don't forget when you ask for a jumpseat, and I won't forget when I move on to another carrier.