Unpolitical opinion on GoJet
02-23-2008, 03:17 PM
#81
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What I will never understand is if GoJet started with five airlplanes and the first thirty five pilots that went over were Trans States Pilots than why would it be a problem for guys off the street to work for GoJet.
If the Trans States guys that were there thought that it was a good deal than why should an unemployed pilot think think different.
If the Trans States guys that were there thought that it was a good deal than why should an unemployed pilot think think different.
02-23-2008, 03:29 PM
#82
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What I will never understand is if GoJet started with five airlplanes and the first thirty five pilots that went over were Trans States Pilots than why would it be a problem for guys off the street to work for GoJet.
If the Trans States guys that were there thought that it was a good deal than why should an unemployed pilot think think different.
If the Trans States guys that were there thought that it was a good deal than why should an unemployed pilot think think different.
02-23-2008, 03:32 PM
#83
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feezingflyboy
What would you do if your pilot group struck and because you were on probation? Would you go to work or be fired. I'm sure all would say that they would get fired. I wouldn't blame a guy for going to work. If he was off probation, than another story.
My question could happen to a lot at Pinnacle.
What would you do if your pilot group struck and because you were on probation? Would you go to work or be fired. I'm sure all would say that they would get fired. I wouldn't blame a guy for going to work. If he was off probation, than another story.
My question could happen to a lot at Pinnacle.
02-23-2008, 04:04 PM
#84
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Yep, a back to work agreement applies to probationary pilots too. In fact the 1985 UAL strike ended up getting seniority numbers for all the new hires ahead of the scabs.
02-23-2008, 04:04 PM
#85
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Since 75 posts went by and I have not got much out of it, allow me to ask:
Has the GJ contract a real repercussion on the airline industry? Has any of you been affected by the existence of GJ?
To my knowledge any economic system is dictated by the supply and demand. Now, how far do you think the airlines can really strech their contract?
I do not know many people willing to spend extensive time, bags of money and a lot of frustration in training to be an airline pilot. Since pilots constitute the supply, the airlines being the demand, the contracts are subject to natural limits. NO PILOTS= NO AIRLINE.
Has the GJ contract a real repercussion on the airline industry? Has any of you been affected by the existence of GJ?
To my knowledge any economic system is dictated by the supply and demand. Now, how far do you think the airlines can really strech their contract?
I do not know many people willing to spend extensive time, bags of money and a lot of frustration in training to be an airline pilot. Since pilots constitute the supply, the airlines being the demand, the contracts are subject to natural limits. NO PILOTS= NO AIRLINE.
02-23-2008, 05:23 PM
#86
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Originally Posted by denramp
What would you do if your pilot group struck and because you were on probation? Would you go to work or be fired. I'm sure all would say that they would get fired. I wouldn't blame a guy for going to work. If he was off probation, than another story.
My question could happen to a lot at Pinnacle.
What would you do if your pilot group struck and because you were on probation? Would you go to work or be fired. I'm sure all would say that they would get fired. I wouldn't blame a guy for going to work. If he was off probation, than another story.
My question could happen to a lot at Pinnacle.
02-23-2008, 05:45 PM
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02-23-2008, 05:47 PM
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Since 75 posts went by and I have not got much out of it, allow me to ask:
Has the GJ contract a real repercussion on the airline industry? Has any of you been affected by the existence of GJ?
To my knowledge any economic system is dictated by the supply and demand. Now, how far do you think the airlines can really strech their contract?
I do not know many people willing to spend extensive time, bags of money and a lot of frustration in training to be an airline pilot. Since pilots constitute the supply, the airlines being the demand, the contracts are subject to natural limits. NO PILOTS= NO AIRLINE.
Has the GJ contract a real repercussion on the airline industry? Has any of you been affected by the existence of GJ?
To my knowledge any economic system is dictated by the supply and demand. Now, how far do you think the airlines can really strech their contract?
I do not know many people willing to spend extensive time, bags of money and a lot of frustration in training to be an airline pilot. Since pilots constitute the supply, the airlines being the demand, the contracts are subject to natural limits. NO PILOTS= NO AIRLINE.
Why don't you just go to GoJet already, and stop baiting us.
02-23-2008, 08:05 PM
#89
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You probably won't hear from them because they don't display that info in their posts, avatars, signatures, etc. That is pretty much how it is in the real world as well. They hide their ID badges, their bag tags don't say gojet on them, they introduce themselves as "Trans States Holdings" employees, etc.
02-23-2008, 08:29 PM
#90
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I am just trying to formulate an educated opinion about GJ. I am new to the game, and all I can find is comments from people who do not even work for them. I know GJ is not the greatest airline, but poeple like me need to know the pro and cons from pilots who actually work for them.
If you do a search for any other airline, you can find tons of information, but not about GJ.
It is not enough saying that GJ is a scab or an alter ego. I, we need to know if those opinions have any actual repercussion on GJ pilots.
I am probabily too liberal, because I believe in supporting each other as individuals instead of poking each other like kids do. (if there is the need of venting personal frustration, there are other better ways)
If you do a search for any other airline, you can find tons of information, but not about GJ.
It is not enough saying that GJ is a scab or an alter ego. I, we need to know if those opinions have any actual repercussion on GJ pilots.
I am probabily too liberal, because I believe in supporting each other as individuals instead of poking each other like kids do. (if there is the need of venting personal frustration, there are other better ways)
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