icarosF1

You, laxflier, know that it defenitelly matters how long you have been in the industry. A 20 year TWA pilot is not the same as a 2 year regional pilot. I remember when routes tha TSA is flying now was TWA's. Nothing wrong with that now is it? You supporting Dario and that's great but tell me, why did he leave after GJ was created and went to B6 ( oh my, a ALPA MEC going to work for a non-union airline, says alot about his morality), why did you leave also at that time and went to Air Tran and didn't stay to fight and suport your fellow TSA pilots. I know few guys at TSA some of them care and to be honest the most of them say that it was their own fault that they lost the GJ flying.

IQuitEagle

I agree about mainline owning the flying. But the issue here is the transference of aircraft from Eagle pilots to Connection pilots. There is a huge difference than just changing around who does the flying.

Those that were around during that time at Eagle know the details. I don't know what you guys at TSA were told, but I dooubt you guys were told of how it violated our scope at Eagle. At Eagle, it was a mess. I won't get into boring details, as it's all in the past.

In the end, OUR company screwed us, OUR company violated our contract, and so did the arbitrator (that's a whole 'nother story in and of itself). And now airframes that were flown by Eagle pilots for AA are now flown by Connection pilots for AA.

I hold no ill will myself for TSA, CHQ, or the GoJet guys. However, many of my friends and former co-workers at Eagle still hold some serious grudges about the issue.

But enough is enough. I mean, in the end, didn't we (i.e. regional pilots) get the RJ flying to begin with because we accepted to do it at rates that mainline guys refused? So who is/was really raising the bar anyway?

I'm outta this thread. I wish you all well, and good fortunes.

ExperimentalAB

We're all raising the bar...

Now how the hell can we raise the bar when there is no freakin' bar left. Honestly guys...We're all workin' stiffs, and GoJet pilots are all scumbags. That's it...!

ImEbee

But at least we stopped talking about GoJet...

laxflier

I do support my fellow TSA pilots... By keeping your fellow scabjet pilots off the jumpseat.... Dario left to further a career that was maqrkede by years of working for the TSA pilot group. He busted his a## to get things done, defend the pilots and make that dump a more palatable place to work. He left for a better opportunity. Just like me. ....Jet blue seems to be able to treat its pilots well enough so far that a union is not a necessary evil. Those "honest" ones you claim to know are the ones who were willing to take concessions to capture the scabjet flying. The others stood firm and voted it down. And look how the growth has exploded at scabjets! The TSA pilots knew a bad deal, were not willing to give up the meager COLA that they got and wanted to avoid being tainted by an outfit that was built to circumvent the CBA and the TSA pilots. Nice try....

icarosF1

You gonna keep GJ pilots of the jumpseat. Well, SK and his wife tried to do that in your company and they fail. good try though. I don't fly in US currently but when I was it didn't matter which company you worked for, GJ, TSA AE SKW there was always a place on my jumpseat. Now on your case, arragments can be made As far as your TSA brothers and sisters there not less scabs as GJ or CAL or even valuejet. oops sorry Air Tran.

Foxcow

On my commute home a few nights ago, there were two of us TSA guys and a g0jet person. First, we were waiting at the AA connection gate to get home and the gate told me that "he" (pointing to the g0jeter) would not be going before the other TSA guy and I. Due to the weight restrictions, CHQ wasn't able to accommodate any of the non-revs so we all head over to the Northwest gates to see if that is any better. I introduce myself to the Pinnacle crew and they made sure to take a look at my badge to see that it it really TSA. It just so happens that they had been talking about the whole g0jet mess on the way down. The CA gets on the phone with the jumpseat coordinator and some of his other co-workers. As boarding was completed, the CA denied him. It was the last flight out as well.

reevesofskyking

Always a heartwarming story.

I do however wish there was a clear cut and simple answer to resolve all of this issue now, and keeping in mind that it has to be practical.

I know that the answer would be if the world worked by the same ideal laws of forum physics, but that aside.......

andy171773

GoJet goes away, and the flying goes back to it's rightful recipient.

That'll solve it.

Blackwing

So I guess that means all TSA's flying goes back to Eagle then?

Live by the sword, die by the sword...