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Old 02-26-2008, 11:27 AM
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I haven't *made* any arguments here, just pointed out holes in those presented by others.

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Originally Posted by Blackwing
I haven't *made* any arguments here, just pointed out the holes in those presented by others.
Ok I guess that is the point that I am LABORING to make.........what are these holes you speak of?
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Old 02-26-2008, 11:38 AM
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"G7 flies CR7s for less than everybody else, thereby harming the profession" -- False

"G7 is the only carrier with notorious management, thereby harming the profession" -- False

Which is to say, I guess MY point is that G7 probably gets a worse rap than is perhaps deserved.
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Old 02-26-2008, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
"G7 flies CR7s for less than everybody else, thereby harming the profession" -- False

"G7 is the only carrier with notorious management, thereby harming the profession" -- False

Which is to say, I guess MY point is that G7 probably gets a worse rap than is perhaps deserved.
It doesn't matter what G7 is doing now, what matters is how they were created. Their creation was about as dirty, and disgusting as has ever existed in the aviation industry. The fact that G7 DOES exists hurts the industry, because it shows that management can get away with it. Anyone working there, especially the first bunch should be ashamed, and even though scab isn't necessarily "correct", it's about the lowest word possible in the aviation industry. Frankly, we should coin a new one for the original go jetters, as they're about as pitiful as they come.

G7 is the perfect example of how the lack of solidarity in a pilot group, hurts more than management ever could.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
"G7 flies CR7s for less than everybody else, thereby harming the profession" -- False

"G7 is the only carrier with notorious management, thereby harming the profession" -- False

Which is to say, I guess MY point is that G7 probably gets a worse rap than is perhaps deserved.
First of all GoJet deserves all of the bad rap it gets. It was formed in a very underhanded way and still continues to operate under the auspices of that backstabbing original intent. I'm really interested in your train of thought how this isn't fact.

Is that exactly what PilotPip said.....that GoJet flies CR7's for LESS THAN EVERYBODY ELSE? Or that GoJet was the ONLY carrier with notorious management? No, your are making stuff up now to try and keep swimming.
GoJet harms the profession for the reason stated in VARIOUS posts on this and many other sites. Your incorrect argument won't ever change that, no matter how much you want to spin someones words.
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"It doesn't matter what G7 is doing now, what matters is how they were created." -- Opinion

"Their creation was about as dirty, and disgusting as has ever existed in the aviation industry." -- Opinion misrepresented as fact

"The fact that G7 DOES exists hurts the industry, because it shows that management can get away with it." -- Non sequitur

"Anyone working there, especially the first bunch should be ashamed..." -- Opinion

"G7 is the perfect example of how the lack of solidarity in a pilot group, hurts more than management ever could." -- Non sequitur
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by andy171773
It doesn't matter what G7 is doing now, what matters is how they were created. Their creation was about as dirty, and disgusting as has ever existed in the aviation industry. The fact that G7 DOES exists hurts the industry, because it shows that management can get away with it. Anyone working there, especially the first bunch should be ashamed, and even though scab isn't necessarily "correct", it's about the lowest word possible in the aviation industry. Frankly, we should coin a new one for the original go jetters, as they're about as pitiful as they come.

G7 is the perfect example of how the lack of solidarity in a pilot group, hurts more than management ever could.
I have been using SORES for them for quite awhile

Similar to Scabs but just enough different.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by andy171773
It doesn't matter what G7 is doing now, what matters is how they were created. Their creation was about as dirty, and disgusting as has ever existed in the aviation industry.
Please read up on the cut-throat tactics used by a few of the legacy carriers (start-ups) back in the '30s to win and control US mail contracts.

Added: The point is, we should all get along, get hired by the major airline with the fastest upgrade so we can build time to get hired at our ultimate goal - commuter airlines flying the b1900.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:17 PM
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Please read up on the cut-throat tactics used by a few of the legacy carriers (start-ups) back in the '30s to win and control US mail contracts.
I know all about it, but that was pre de-regulation, and there WERE no pilot contracts back then
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Originally Posted by Joeshmoe
I'm really interested in your train of thought how this isn't fact.
Sure, I'll dissect it for you:

"First of all GoJet deserves all of the bad rap it gets." -- Opinion

"It was formed in a very underhanded way..." -- Opinion

"...continues to operate under the auspices of that backstabbing original intent." -- False; it operates under the auspices of a union-negotiated collective bargaining agreement.

Originally Posted by Joeshmoe
Is that exactly what PilotPip said.....that GoJet flies CR7's for LESS THAN EVERYBODY ELSE?
This is exactly what he said:

Originally Posted by Pilotpip
Why go work for an airline that has a lower pay rate than anybody flying comparable equipment?
Note that he didn't say "lower QOL", etc, he said "lower PAY RATE", and that statement is categorically false.
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