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Old 02-25-2008, 06:33 PM
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Default Heard a controller the other day in JAX center...

Lindbergh checked in, some pilot asked what company they worked for, controller said ask them, a few seconds passed and this squeaky proud voice goes "GoJets"... The controller breaks out with "So THATS who you guys are!".. It got mighty quiet right then.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilotpip
Block doesn't tell the whole story bud. I also wouldn't be too proud of a middle-of-the-road contract that was signed in some cases years after others flying that equipment.
Whatever. You didn't say "total compensation", you said "rate". Man up, admit your error, and drive on.

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If management was so good, why did GJ need a union? Maybe they got sick of 14 days on the road with their required days off at an outstation rather than home.
Wow, you're not only changing what YOU said, you're putting words in MY mouth too. You always like this, or did you forget to take your meds?

Never said G7's management was all that and a bag of chips, but to suggest everybody else has honest, fair and competent management is somewhat deceptive.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by flynavyj
You say "No, we'd rather keep things how they are as opposed to lose everything we've got for the sake of a couple airframes"

Management say, ok, and starts UP-ed, which is flying the UPS planes for less than the UPS rate, and controlled under UPS management.

Suddenly, UPS pilots are flipping off UP-ed Pilots, and peeing on their tires at the outstation.
I thought this was already happening at UPS with our Euro routes and contractors during peak (Christmas Holiday Season).

Sorry for the misdirect.

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ps. IN ANC, it's too cold to pee on anyone's tires..kinda like freezing rain
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Old 02-26-2008, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
Whatever. You didn't say "total compensation", you said "rate". Man up, admit your error, and drive on.



Wow, you're not only changing what YOU said, you're putting words in MY mouth too. You always like this, or did you forget to take your meds?

Never said G7's management was all that and a bag of chips, but to suggest everybody else has honest, fair and competent management is somewhat deceptive.
Bro, no need for him to "man up" when you're using semantics to further your argument. I think we all knew what he was speaking of when saying block doesn't tell the whole story. It isn't rate vs. total compensation when you factor in QOL and the issue that GoJet pulled the days off out of domicile routinely.
As far as management, he stated that GoJet has a notorious management, not that any others are fair, honest, etc. Say the same about Mesa. Before you want to go after this dude you might want to tighten up your argument points.
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Old 02-26-2008, 07:47 AM
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Wow, I'm surprised this lasted this long. Hopefully it will at least convey the magnitudue of controversy surrounding gojet to some of the newbie readers. BTW, controversy is not usually a good thing for pilot careers.

Kudos to the mods for walking a fine line
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Old 02-26-2008, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Wow, I'm surprised this lasted this long. Hopefully it will at least convey the magnitudue of controversy surrounding gojet to some of the newbie readers. BTW, controversy is not usually a good thing for pilot careers.

Kudos to the mods for walking a fine line
I was thinking the same thing. 115 posts later hopefully the guy (and anyone else who's considering GoJet) got the message.
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Old 02-26-2008, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Kudos to the mods for walking a fine line
Well, we had some moments, but we were able to keep it on track. Kudos to all of you too!
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Old 02-26-2008, 08:08 AM
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Well, we had some moments, but we were able to keep it on track. Kudos to all of you too!
I keep wanting to swat the dang bug off my screen whenever I read your posts.
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Joeshmoe
Before you want to go after this dude you might want to tighten up your argument points.

Not "going after" anybody, just separating the wheat from the chaff.
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
Not "going after" anybody, just separating the wheat from the chaff.
Great. Now please inject some substance into your arguments so we may see some of the wheat......or are you all chaff??
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