rumrunnr03

Are they still hiring? Junior Base?

DCAbaron

Yes, bonus is down to 100k now, captains choose their base. Theres been a massive amount of DEC applicants recently so it’s gotten a bit more competitive.

rumrunnr03

Thank you for the response.

TwoDaysBehind

To: All Pilots

From: B.S. Chief Pilot

Date: May 26, 2016

Re: Fatigue calls and 177 Extensions

Pilots, Effective immediately, fatigue calls will be provided with a minimum 14 hours of rest. Additionally, a new show time and duty assignment will be provided by crew scheduling. A hotel will be made available, if requested.

Further, after researching FAA legal interpretations and other carriers' practices regarding Part 117 extensions, GoJet will treat 117 extensions the same as any contractual and regulatorily allowed extension. A pilot may at any time refuse an assignment. As with any extension refusal, the pilot will be conferenced in with the Chief Pilot or Manager in Operational Control and may be subject to disciplinary action.

Please don't hesitate to call if you have any questions.

Thank you and Fly Safe, (b. s.)

About the level of intimidation coming from Gojet. Extension up to 2 hours is not by mutual consent, it's assigned and you're doing it. Your only way out is by calling fatigue, and that will involve disciplinary action.

A competent attorney general should've put someone in jail for the wording of the above memo. It's threatening disciplinary action against someone unwilling to fly up to 16 hours on duty. Just insane and unsafe.

tallpilot

Have you sent the memo to the FAA safety hotline? The administrator's office? The chief counsel's office?

I never worked for Hulas (rest his soul) and I'm glad for it, but someone who does could try those things. Obviously the POI is on management's side so you have to go up the chain.

If I were in this particular situation I would absolutely use the F word instead of refusing the extension. Having a report in the FRMS will help with the subsequent lawsuit.

At the end of the day though scumbags gonna scumbag. C5 has probably the worst work rules and compensation of the jet operators but they don't do this kind of BS.

QRH Bingo

FWIW, Teamsters union at RPA recently sent out some clarification/guidance that the company may inquire as to one's reason for refusing an extension, even to the extent that the pilot may be required to use sick time if fatigue is not clearly mentioned or identified. While the wording of the above memo is not explicitly clear, I would argue that it is similar to RPA's guidance in that your only way out is to clearly state one is fatigued (or sick) and say no more. Additional comments could end up doing you more harm and provide more ammo for management to apply discipline.

Always apply the age old K.I.S.S. Method anytime when speaking to company personnel.

rumrunnr03

Do you know how the bonus is paid out?

DCAbaron

it’s paid out as a daily bonus over a year. Paid out in each paycheck.