Gojet TA
01-04-2023, 02:01 PM
#41
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Looks like the one with initials SP was not who he at g7 in ORD recently. Most of the dirty dozen are having a hard time adjusting to life outside of g7.
That is a weak response to the injustices done by Gojet. You should read it carefully and tell me if you have any disagreements with my facts. Unreadable tells me you do not like the facts that I have given for all to see. Its readable alright, you may have a problem with your comprehension skills if you can't read it. My knowledge of Gojet and TSA is based on over 25 years of close observation of their management techniques and the abuse they have used to control their workforce with. These guys have no professional code or morals as they tried everything from union busting to outright criminal abuse of TSA's labor agreement. I know some of the other regionals have a track record as well, but TSH is definitely right up front with the worst of them.
So here is your paragraph break. I will never allow TSH to slip off the hook for the crimes they have committed over the years. The original guys who formed Gojet were a bunch of back stabbers as they were TSA guys (about six pilots and management) who took the bait to get in on the ground floor of Gojet with unknown amounts of money to be paid behind closed doors with no union to observe them. My point is the same infrastructure still remains today with HK and RL at the top. I would guess some of the management remains but am unsure if any of the pilots remain. I will leave you with this thought. After the whole Gojet crime the pilots who started Gojet stayed for many years. I knew all of them, they knew how I felt about their behavior and actions. As the years went by, I would run into them at the airport or the training center. The abuse they received from their fellow pilots was quite severe. We had a near fist fight on a hotel van before they separated the crews from riding together. Eventually they were worn down to the point they would not even make eye contact with you as they knew what was coming and they finally understood their error, but it was too late to change their actions.
Don't make grammar or sentence structure a point when this type of behavior is involved. If anyone thinks this company is not responsible for their past actions, please show me their apology and the actions they took to amend their crimes. The people who take employment at Gojet today need to be fully aware of this companies' history no matter how long it has been. With all the hiring going on today why someone would even consider a scab airline like Gojet is beyond me except they are willing to look the other way to benefit themselves. Just like the original Gojet pilots and management did.
Cheers
So here is your paragraph break. I will never allow TSH to slip off the hook for the crimes they have committed over the years. The original guys who formed Gojet were a bunch of back stabbers as they were TSA guys (about six pilots and management) who took the bait to get in on the ground floor of Gojet with unknown amounts of money to be paid behind closed doors with no union to observe them. My point is the same infrastructure still remains today with HK and RL at the top. I would guess some of the management remains but am unsure if any of the pilots remain. I will leave you with this thought. After the whole Gojet crime the pilots who started Gojet stayed for many years. I knew all of them, they knew how I felt about their behavior and actions. As the years went by, I would run into them at the airport or the training center. The abuse they received from their fellow pilots was quite severe. We had a near fist fight on a hotel van before they separated the crews from riding together. Eventually they were worn down to the point they would not even make eye contact with you as they knew what was coming and they finally understood their error, but it was too late to change their actions.
Don't make grammar or sentence structure a point when this type of behavior is involved. If anyone thinks this company is not responsible for their past actions, please show me their apology and the actions they took to amend their crimes. The people who take employment at Gojet today need to be fully aware of this companies' history no matter how long it has been. With all the hiring going on today why someone would even consider a scab airline like Gojet is beyond me except they are willing to look the other way to benefit themselves. Just like the original Gojet pilots and management did.
Cheers
10-27-2023, 01:56 PM
#43
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Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 5
I'm happy with this hobby. And there are no "unhinged rants". I point to actual court cases that Gojet has brought upon itself. Pilots need to know what GoJet is like to make an informed decision. It is all very useful information to anyone who really wants the truth. GoJet is NOT "line any other regional, show up, do the job, and move on". For today's post, I'll point everyone to Gojet's firing of a pilot on military leave. https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.roa.org/re...8/18087-lr.pdf
If you think G7 is like other airlines then I'd guess you don't work there. There are MANY people trying to inform others about what a person can look forward to at GoJet. I'm glad someone specializes in collecting all the data. You on the other hand jump from regional to regional making comments that usually are not very clear. And weren't you negative on Mesa a while back, or did I misunderstand those posts? Is Mesa "just like an other regional"?
Sorry about reviving an old thread but do you have any more examples of this.
As a new hire at the company, Id certainly like to know more about what Im potentially getting into.
11-03-2023, 07:42 PM
#44
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Joined APC: Jan 2023
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These threads are full of facts about what Gojet has done to people. Just don't get into the trap of thinking that because you have been there a month that these things don't happen. You could face attack at any moment, through no fault of your own. Move on to Skywest as soon as you can and then on from there.
11-06-2023, 03:01 PM
#45
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If you are considering working for Gojet Airlines LLC, it is important to be aware of the hazards involved and to take steps to protect yourself.
Gojet Airlines LLC has a history of treating its pilots poorly. In 2014, the company was sued by the pilots' union, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT), for violating the pilots' contract and for discriminating against pilots on the basis of race, religion, national origin, and color. The lawsuit alleged that Gojet had a culture of harassment and intimidation, and that pilots who complained about safety issues or other problems were often disciplined or fired.
The lawsuit also alleged that Gojet had a history of scheduling pilots for long hours and forcing them to work through fatigue. This led to several safety incidents, including a 2012 incident in which a Gojet pilot fell asleep in the cockpit and nearly crashed the plane.
In 2017, Gojet reached a settlement with the IBT that included a number of changes to the company's policies and practices. However, pilots have continued to report problems with the company. In 2022, a group of Gojet pilots filed a complaint with the National Mediation Board, alleging that the company was engaging in unfair labor practices.
Here are some specific examples of Gojet's difficult past treatment of pilots:
In 2012, a Gojet pilot was fired after he complained about being forced to work through fatigue.
In 2013, a Gojet pilot was suspended for six months after he reported a safety hazard to the FAA.
In 2014, a Gojet pilot was fired after he filed a complaint with the IBT about harassment and discrimination.
In 2015, a Gojet pilot was suspended for three months after he refused to fly a plane that he believed was unsafe.
In 2017, a Gojet pilot was fired after he reported a safety hazard to the FAA.
These are just a few examples of the many ways in which Gojet has mistreated its pilots over the years. It is important to note that Gojet has denied all of these allegations. However, the company's history of mistreating its pilots is well-documented.
If you are considering working as a pilot for Gojet Airlines LLC, it is important to be aware of the company's difficult past treatment of pilots. You should also be aware of the high workload and demanding schedules that Gojet pilots are often required to work.
Gojet Airlines LLC has a history of treating its pilots poorly. In 2014, the company was sued by the pilots' union, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT), for violating the pilots' contract and for discriminating against pilots on the basis of race, religion, national origin, and color. The lawsuit alleged that Gojet had a culture of harassment and intimidation, and that pilots who complained about safety issues or other problems were often disciplined or fired.
The lawsuit also alleged that Gojet had a history of scheduling pilots for long hours and forcing them to work through fatigue. This led to several safety incidents, including a 2012 incident in which a Gojet pilot fell asleep in the cockpit and nearly crashed the plane.
In 2017, Gojet reached a settlement with the IBT that included a number of changes to the company's policies and practices. However, pilots have continued to report problems with the company. In 2022, a group of Gojet pilots filed a complaint with the National Mediation Board, alleging that the company was engaging in unfair labor practices.
Here are some specific examples of Gojet's difficult past treatment of pilots:
In 2012, a Gojet pilot was fired after he complained about being forced to work through fatigue.
In 2013, a Gojet pilot was suspended for six months after he reported a safety hazard to the FAA.
In 2014, a Gojet pilot was fired after he filed a complaint with the IBT about harassment and discrimination.
In 2015, a Gojet pilot was suspended for three months after he refused to fly a plane that he believed was unsafe.
In 2017, a Gojet pilot was fired after he reported a safety hazard to the FAA.
These are just a few examples of the many ways in which Gojet has mistreated its pilots over the years. It is important to note that Gojet has denied all of these allegations. However, the company's history of mistreating its pilots is well-documented.
If you are considering working as a pilot for Gojet Airlines LLC, it is important to be aware of the company's difficult past treatment of pilots. You should also be aware of the high workload and demanding schedules that Gojet pilots are often required to work.
11-06-2023, 03:09 PM
#46
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Posts: 153
Should you have a lawyer on speed dial before working at Gojet?
Yes. Having legal representation before working at Gojet Airlines LLC is important for a number of reasons. First, Gojet has a history of mistreating its pilots, as discussed above. Having a lawyer can help protect your rights if you are ever mistreated by the company.
Second, Gojet's employment contracts are complex and can be difficult to understand. A lawyer can help you review your contract and explain your rights and obligations.
Third, Gojet is a large company with a lot of resources. If you ever get into a dispute with the company, you will be at a disadvantage if you do not have a lawyer. A lawyer can help you level the playing field and fight for your rights.
Here are some specific ways that a lawyer can help you before working at Gojet:
Review your employment contract and explain your rights and obligations.
Advise you on your legal rights if you are ever mistreated by the company.
Represent you in court if you ever have a dispute with the company.
If you are considering working at Gojet Airlines LLC, I strongly recommend that you consult with an employment lawyer before you sign anything. A lawyer can help you protect your rights and interests.
There's a few possible outcomes of working for Gojet. There's a chance you'll go fly the line and eventually get a better job without issues. But many Gojet careers end early, and of those, many end up in court. Often with non disclosure agreements and million dollar settlements.
Yes. Having legal representation before working at Gojet Airlines LLC is important for a number of reasons. First, Gojet has a history of mistreating its pilots, as discussed above. Having a lawyer can help protect your rights if you are ever mistreated by the company.
Second, Gojet's employment contracts are complex and can be difficult to understand. A lawyer can help you review your contract and explain your rights and obligations.
Third, Gojet is a large company with a lot of resources. If you ever get into a dispute with the company, you will be at a disadvantage if you do not have a lawyer. A lawyer can help you level the playing field and fight for your rights.
Here are some specific ways that a lawyer can help you before working at Gojet:
Review your employment contract and explain your rights and obligations.
Advise you on your legal rights if you are ever mistreated by the company.
Represent you in court if you ever have a dispute with the company.
If you are considering working at Gojet Airlines LLC, I strongly recommend that you consult with an employment lawyer before you sign anything. A lawyer can help you protect your rights and interests.
There's a few possible outcomes of working for Gojet. There's a chance you'll go fly the line and eventually get a better job without issues. But many Gojet careers end early, and of those, many end up in court. Often with non disclosure agreements and million dollar settlements.
11-06-2023, 03:14 PM
#47
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Aviation is a highly regulated industry for a reason. Flying is a complex and dangerous activity, and there is no room for error. That's why the FAA has established strict safety standards that all airlines must follow.
Gojet Airlines LLC has a history of bending the law and violating safety standards in order to make a profit. Here are some specific examples:
In 2014, Gojet was fined $1.5 million by the FAA for violating safety regulations. The FAA found that Gojet had failed to properly train its pilots and had allowed them to fly planes that were not properly maintained.
In 2015, Gojet was fined $2 million by the FAA for violating safety regulations. The FAA found that Gojet had allowed pilots to fly planes while fatigued and had failed to properly report safety incidents.
In 2016, Gojet was fined $3 million by the FAA for violating safety regulations. The FAA found that Gojet had allowed pilots to fly planes that were not properly maintained and had failed to properly train its pilots on how to handle emergency situations.
In addition to these specific examples, Gojet has also been accused of violating safety standards in other ways. For example, pilots have reported that Gojet frequently schedules them for long hours and forces them to work through fatigue. Pilots have also reported that Gojet has a culture of intimidation and that pilots who complain about safety issues are often disciplined or fired.
The FAA has taken steps to address Gojet's safety problems. In 2016, the FAA placed Gojet on a heightened surveillance program. This means that the FAA will be conducting more inspections of Gojet's operations and will be monitoring the company more closely.
However, the FAA's actions have not been enough to stop Gojet from violating safety standards. In 2022, a group of Gojet pilots filed a complaint with the National Mediation Board, alleging that the company was engaging in unfair labor practices. The complaint also alleged that Gojet was violating safety standards by scheduling pilots for long hours and forcing them to work through fatigue.
The FAA's failure to take more aggressive action against Gojet is a serious concern. Gojet's violations of safety standards put the lives of passengers and pilots at risk. The FAA needs to do more to hold Gojet accountable and to ensure that the company is following safety regulations.
Here are some specific ways that Gojet is bending the law and violating safety standards to make a profit:
Scheduling pilots for long hours and forcing them to work through fatigue. This is a violation of FAA regulations and puts the safety of passengers and pilots at risk.
Failing to properly train pilots. This is a violation of FAA regulations and could lead to accidents.
Allowing pilots to fly planes that are not properly maintained. This is a violation of FAA regulations and could lead to accidents.
Having a culture of intimidation and retaliating against pilots who complain about safety issues. This is a violation of FAA regulations and prevents pilots from coming forward with safety concerns.
The FAA needs to take more aggressive action against Gojet to protect the safety of passengers and pilots. The agency should increase the number of inspections of Gojet's operations and should impose heavier fines on the company for violating safety regulations. The FAA should also require Gojet to take steps to address its safety problems, such as hiring more pilots and reducing the number of hours that pilots are required to work.
Gojet is, to my knowledge, the only airline where taking the full 2-hour 117 duty extension is MANDATORY. It is not by mutual agreement or with option to decline without invoking a fatigue reporting process subject to disciplinary action. It is a flagrant violation of the 117 intent.
Gojet Airlines LLC has a history of bending the law and violating safety standards in order to make a profit. Here are some specific examples:
In 2014, Gojet was fined $1.5 million by the FAA for violating safety regulations. The FAA found that Gojet had failed to properly train its pilots and had allowed them to fly planes that were not properly maintained.
In 2015, Gojet was fined $2 million by the FAA for violating safety regulations. The FAA found that Gojet had allowed pilots to fly planes while fatigued and had failed to properly report safety incidents.
In 2016, Gojet was fined $3 million by the FAA for violating safety regulations. The FAA found that Gojet had allowed pilots to fly planes that were not properly maintained and had failed to properly train its pilots on how to handle emergency situations.
In addition to these specific examples, Gojet has also been accused of violating safety standards in other ways. For example, pilots have reported that Gojet frequently schedules them for long hours and forces them to work through fatigue. Pilots have also reported that Gojet has a culture of intimidation and that pilots who complain about safety issues are often disciplined or fired.
The FAA has taken steps to address Gojet's safety problems. In 2016, the FAA placed Gojet on a heightened surveillance program. This means that the FAA will be conducting more inspections of Gojet's operations and will be monitoring the company more closely.
However, the FAA's actions have not been enough to stop Gojet from violating safety standards. In 2022, a group of Gojet pilots filed a complaint with the National Mediation Board, alleging that the company was engaging in unfair labor practices. The complaint also alleged that Gojet was violating safety standards by scheduling pilots for long hours and forcing them to work through fatigue.
The FAA's failure to take more aggressive action against Gojet is a serious concern. Gojet's violations of safety standards put the lives of passengers and pilots at risk. The FAA needs to do more to hold Gojet accountable and to ensure that the company is following safety regulations.
Here are some specific ways that Gojet is bending the law and violating safety standards to make a profit:
Scheduling pilots for long hours and forcing them to work through fatigue. This is a violation of FAA regulations and puts the safety of passengers and pilots at risk.
Failing to properly train pilots. This is a violation of FAA regulations and could lead to accidents.
Allowing pilots to fly planes that are not properly maintained. This is a violation of FAA regulations and could lead to accidents.
Having a culture of intimidation and retaliating against pilots who complain about safety issues. This is a violation of FAA regulations and prevents pilots from coming forward with safety concerns.
The FAA needs to take more aggressive action against Gojet to protect the safety of passengers and pilots. The agency should increase the number of inspections of Gojet's operations and should impose heavier fines on the company for violating safety regulations. The FAA should also require Gojet to take steps to address its safety problems, such as hiring more pilots and reducing the number of hours that pilots are required to work.
Gojet is, to my knowledge, the only airline where taking the full 2-hour 117 duty extension is MANDATORY. It is not by mutual agreement or with option to decline without invoking a fatigue reporting process subject to disciplinary action. It is a flagrant violation of the 117 intent.
11-07-2023, 11:11 AM
#48
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Posts: 380
Gojet is, to my knowledge, the only airline where taking the full 2-hour 117 duty extension is MANDATORY. It is not by mutual agreement or with option to decline without invoking a fatigue reporting process subject to disciplinary action. It is a flagrant violation of the 117 intent.
11-07-2023, 02:35 PM
#49
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Posts: 95
I watched the taking of the deposition of a GJ VP of Operations regarding the GJ pilot contract.
I found him to not be very bright but he seemed to believe that he was the world's most intellectual pilot. He started off poorly by restating his previous lies that had been proven to be lies by his own emails. The GJ lawyer had to stop the deposition and bring him out of the room and spend 20 minutes reminding him that everyone knew those things were lies. He then came back to correct his statements with new lies. I believe they had spent 2 hours and 45 minutes the day before coming up with new ways to explain his actions, but it didn't seem to help him out.
In his testimony he stated that he did not care what the pilot contract said because he had a responsibility to do what he felt was safe. He went on to say that he did not care about determinations of the FAA Aerospace Medical Certification Division because he was better equipped to make medical determinations about pilots he had never met than the FAA or FAA doctors having done actual medical tests. If someone pointed to the pilot contract, he solution was to just fire the pilot.
The pilots at GJ put up with a lot of crap that no pilot should have to.
I found him to not be very bright but he seemed to believe that he was the world's most intellectual pilot. He started off poorly by restating his previous lies that had been proven to be lies by his own emails. The GJ lawyer had to stop the deposition and bring him out of the room and spend 20 minutes reminding him that everyone knew those things were lies. He then came back to correct his statements with new lies. I believe they had spent 2 hours and 45 minutes the day before coming up with new ways to explain his actions, but it didn't seem to help him out.
In his testimony he stated that he did not care what the pilot contract said because he had a responsibility to do what he felt was safe. He went on to say that he did not care about determinations of the FAA Aerospace Medical Certification Division because he was better equipped to make medical determinations about pilots he had never met than the FAA or FAA doctors having done actual medical tests. If someone pointed to the pilot contract, he solution was to just fire the pilot.
The pilots at GJ put up with a lot of crap that no pilot should have to.
11-07-2023, 04:04 PM
#50
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Posts: 1,869
Thats the big difference.
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