Originally Posted by colive10

This is false. Read the earnings report. They took 3 back during the quarter (as 700s) and the rest are not going to be delivered right now. It does not say they are taking any more back from GJ, just that more that were supossed to be leased are not going right now. GJ currently has 13 Skywest leases (that are staying at GJ) and 25 other aircraft, some owned by GJ some leased. 7 of these are in the conversion process, the rest are already 550s. Nowhere in Skywest call, Mesa"s or anywhere else does it say that any other carrier is gonna operate the 550 right now. Mesa wants to and Skywest kinda wants to but doesnt seem to care that much. I see a lot of misinformation on this site and I wonder how much of it is ignorance and how much is deliberate. I dont know the future of GJ, the 550, or anything else and at this point anything is possible. But stop spreading misinformation.

Originally Posted by colive10

This is false. Read the earnings report. They took 3 back during the quarter (as 700s) and the rest are not going to be delivered right now. It does not say they are taking any more back from GJ, just that more that were supossed to be leased are not going right now. GJ currently has 13 Skywest leases (that are staying at GJ) and 25 other aircraft, some owned by GJ some leased. 7 of these are in the conversion process, the rest are already 550s. Nowhere in Skywest call, Mesa"s or anywhere else does it say that any other carrier is gonna operate the 550 right now. Mesa wants to and Skywest kinda wants to but doesnt seem to care that much. I see a lot of misinformation on this site and I wonder how much of it is ignorance and how much is deliberate. I dont know the future of GJ, the 550, or anything else and at this point anything is possible. But stop spreading misinformation.

Originally Posted by trip

This is correct^^ Taking back the 3 that can't be financed by Gojets. Will be keeping remaining 13 slated for Gojets and fully intend to have all 16 under contract by end of year with a partner and flown by Skywest, no mention of configuration.

Originally Posted by point80

Your right. The original guy misspoke about the earnings call. It does not say they are taking the 13 planes but will not be leasing them. They did however say they plan on operating them their selves not leasing at a later date. So those 13 planes that were suppose to come from OO are no longer coming and the 20 from YV are no longer coming.

I might be wrong but doesnt UA own all your planes? I dont believe GoJet owns any and they are all leased. If I am wrong, how many are owned by gojet?

Originally Posted by colive10

Not sure of exact number but no, UA owns only the interiors (cabins) of some airplanes. GJ owns some outright, well TSH does anyway. The rest are leased to TSH from various sources, banks, other sources. It is true that GJ is not taking any additional deliveries at this point. However UA recently gave GJ the green light to complete the remaining 7 conversions. These 38 aircraft are all on property and have been.

Originally Posted by colive10

Not sure of exact number but no, UA owns only the interiors (cabins) of some airplanes. GJ owns some outright, well TSH does anyway. The rest are leased to TSH from various sources, banks, other sources. It is true that GJ is not taking any additional deliveries at this point. However UA recently gave GJ the green light to complete the remaining 7 conversions. These 38 aircraft are all on property and have been.

Originally Posted by point80

Thanks. Now the math makes sense on the 74 number they were original going to get pre-covid.

Go Jet- 38 (7 parked to be converted)
Mesa- 20 (Not being delivered)
SW-16 (13 not being delivered and 3 taken back)

Originally Posted by point80

Thanks. Now the math makes sense on the 74 number they were original going to get pre-covid.

Go Jet- 38 (7 parked to be converted)
Mesa- 20 (Not being delivered)
SW-16 (13 not being delivered and 3 taken back)

Originally Posted by captive apple

SkyWest had a 10 year lease to gojet (unnnamed third part) for 29 airframes, so the math isn’t perfect. (13 currently delivered, 3 taken back & 13 probably won’t be sent) I don’t know about the Mesa jets, were they announced to the going to GoJet? I never heard that.

Originally Posted by point80

Yes, pre-covid.
Mesa was/is getting 20 new Ejets for IAD. The 20 700s were in IAD were suppose to be leased to GoJet. When covid happened Mesas AA contract did/will take a hit and to save some of the flying JO has said he wants to keep the 700s and convert them himself to 550s. He said if he does the plan would be to move into ORD and EWR with them and leave the 20 new ejets in IAD.