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Old 08-04-2020, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad
First of all let me express my deepest sympathies with all Expressjet pilots. What’s going on in our industry is horrible.

i have a question, how can management look for other flying options? My understanding is the UA owns all airplanes.
Since we're really just a staffing company I guess they would try to get a contract to fly someone else's planes. Since XJT is 49.9% owned by United and the industry is in shambles I don't see it happening.
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I say he likes a challenge, and this certainly qualifies, and keeps it going with United continuing to stay wit Gojet to fly the 550’s. Again need business travel to pick up but that will eventually happen. Once the election is over and the COVID propaganda ends people will come back to fly on the airlines.
he may have liked a challenge in his younger days, but hulas is ready to ride off into the sunset.
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Well it does look like it was everyone.
Link to proof that all GoJet employees received WARN notices?
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Old 08-04-2020, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tallpilot
Link to proof that all GoJet employees received WARN notices?
Check states where you have bases.
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Check states where you have bases.
50 GSO employees reported by the state. So how many do you have based in GSO? Pilots and FA?

It does say "Temporary" - where the AA layoffs say Permanent.

https://www.nccommerce.com/documents...rn-report-2020
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Originally Posted by tallpilot
Link to proof that all GoJet employees received WARN notices?
https://jobs.mo.gov/sites/jobs/files...d_07302020.pdf

That one says all employees in MO.

"Number of Affected Employees in Missouri: 525 *This number is the total number of GoJet employees in Missouri. GoJet does not yet have information on its operations October 1, 2020 and beyond therefore the exact number of employees to be laid off is unknown at this time. It is expected that the number of layoffs will exceed 50 in total across all locations in Missouri. Additional information regarding the job titles of positions that will be affected and the number of affected employees in each job category will be made available upon request."

SO it is NOT in stone by any means.
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Skywest stated in their earnings report, I believe that is where it was, that they are getting back their 700s in their current configuration, which is the 550. It is also getting back their spare engines. Skywest said that it currently have no partner for who it will fly the planes. 3 have already been returned with 16 more coming.

What does that tell us? I'm thinking: United can't be too happy with the 550 when comparing it to the 200s. I expected united to keep the luxury 550s and get rid of the trash 200s, but the opposite appears to be the case. GJ currently has 31 550 of which 7 are parked, result 24.

GJ has a few that were about to be converted. I guess those could replace the ones going back to Skywest leaving GJ with 20 to 24. But why would they send planes back to SW if the 550 would have a future life with GJ?
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Originally Posted by Bombardier Stev
Skywest stated in their earnings report, I believe that is where it was, that they are getting back their 700s in their current configuration, which is the 550. It is also getting back their spare engines. Skywest said that it currently have no partner for who it will fly the planes. 3 have already been returned with 16 more coming.

What does that tell us? I'm thinking: United can't be too happy with the 550 when comparing it to the 200s. I expected united to keep the luxury 550s and get rid of the trash 200s, but the opposite appears to be the case. GJ currently has 31 550 of which 7 are parked, result 24.

GJ has a few that were about to be converted. I guess those could replace the ones going back to Skywest leaving GJ with 20 to 24. But why would they send planes back to SW if the 550 would have a future life with GJ?
did I read you correctly, that 16 of your current fleet is going back to Skywest?
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Originally Posted by Bombardier Stev
Skywest stated in their earnings report, I believe that is where it was, that they are getting back their 700s in their current configuration, which is the 550. It is also getting back their spare engines. Skywest said that it currently have no partner for who it will fly the planes. 3 have already been returned with 16 more coming.

What does that tell us? I'm thinking: United can't be too happy with the 550 when comparing it to the 200s. I expected united to keep the luxury 550s and get rid of the trash 200s, but the opposite appears to be the case. GJ currently has 31 550 of which 7 are parked, result 24.

GJ has a few that were about to be converted. I guess those could replace the ones going back to Skywest leaving GJ with 20 to 24. But why would they send planes back to SW if the 550 would have a future life with GJ?

Go back to the phone call, CC explicitly stated that the lessee could was unable to pay the bills.
Sounds like they’re being repo’d.
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Originally Posted by Bombardier Stev
Skywest stated in their earnings report, I believe that is where it was, that they are getting back their 700s in their current configuration, which is the 550. It is also getting back their spare engines. Skywest said that it currently have no partner for who it will fly the planes. 3 have already been returned with 16 more coming.

What does that tell us? I'm thinking: United can't be too happy with the 550 when comparing it to the 200s. I expected united to keep the luxury 550s and get rid of the trash 200s, but the opposite appears to be the case. GJ currently has 31 550 of which 7 are parked, result 24.

GJ has a few that were about to be converted. I guess those could replace the ones going back to Skywest leaving GJ with 20 to 24. But why would they send planes back to SW if the 550 would have a future life with GJ?
This is false. Read the earnings report. They took 3 back during the quarter (as 700s) and the rest are not going to be delivered right now. It does not say they are taking any more back from GJ, just that more that were supossed to be leased are not going right now. GJ currently has 13 Skywest leases (that are staying at GJ) and 25 other aircraft, some owned by GJ some leased. 7 of these are in the conversion process, the rest are already 550s. Nowhere in Skywest call, Mesa"s or anywhere else does it say that any other carrier is gonna operate the 550 right now. Mesa wants to and Skywest kinda wants to but doesnt seem to care that much. I see a lot of misinformation on this site and I wonder how much of it is ignorance and how much is deliberate. I dont know the future of GJ, the 550, or anything else and at this point anything is possible. But stop spreading misinformation.
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