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Old 08-08-2019, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingKat
Actually the first 550 is an old Horizon 700 that has been seen at the hangar in STL since last month. Unless something has changed recently the FAA still has not re certified the aircraft.
OK, I’m no IA or anything, but recertifying the same aircraft with a lower gross weight and fewer seats actually doesn’t seem like it would require a huge effort. Input from the manufacturer might be a problem, since Bombardier just sold the line, but dang, 70 seat aircraft are flown with only 50 seats filled every day. It ain’t rocket science.

Maybe everybody that has the authority to sign this off is up to his/her arse in trying to get the MAX flying again.
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I just hope it can take a jumpseater with ease.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
OK, I’m no IA or anything, but recertifying the same aircraft with a lower gross weight and fewer seats actually doesn’t seem like it would require a huge effort. Input from the manufacturer might be a problem, since Bombardier just sold the line, but dang, 70 seat aircraft are flown with only 50 seats filled every day. It ain’t rocket science.

Maybe everybody that has the authority to sign this off is up to his/her arse in trying to get the MAX flying again.
Supposedly the Feds are requiring two FAs as well which is also slowing down certification because they want one FA.
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I know that’s what I’m thinking. It will be tough to have to relearn all the systems and stuff.
There is some training for the FA

Basically just a revamped 700 so not much different for the pilot
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Originally Posted by FlyingKat
Supposedly the Feds are requiring two FAs as well which is also slowing down certification because they want one FA.
Why would the feds require 2 FA’s for 50 pax? Not required by regs
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Old 08-09-2019, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JayD
The first fully converted and repainted CRJ550 arrived in ORD last night from YUL. N504GJ

Chicagoland Aviation Spotters posted interior and exterior pictures of it early this morning sitting at gate B1.
But is the type certified?
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Old 08-09-2019, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
OK, I’m no IA or anything, but recertifying the same aircraft with a lower gross weight and fewer seats actually doesn’t seem like it would require a huge effort. Input from the manufacturer might be a problem, since Bombardier just sold the line, but dang, 70 seat aircraft are flown with only 50 seats filled every day. It ain’t rocket science.

Maybe everybody that has the authority to sign this off is up to his/her arse in trying to get the MAX flying again.
Because of scope the max gross wt must be reduced.
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Old 08-09-2019, 03:17 AM
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According to the FAA website this aircraft is still certified as a CL-600-2C10, which is a CRJ-700. Looks like they did the interior and re-painted it but didn’t actually re-certify it as an actual CRJ-550 yet.
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Old 08-09-2019, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Because of scope the max gross wt must be reduced.
Absolutely, but seriously, how hard is it to get something that is already certified to be flown at a weight that INCLUDES that lower weight to be certified at NO MORE than that reduced gross weight.

Increasing an aircraft max TOW is an ENGINEERING ISSUE. Lowering it - at least lowering it to within its currently allowable TOW within the CG envelope, is a paperwork exercise.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Absolutely, but seriously, how hard is it to get something that is already certified to be flown at a weight that INCLUDES that lower weight to be certified at NO MORE than that reduced gross weight.

Increasing an aircraft max TOW is an ENGINEERING ISSUE. Lowering it - at least lowering it to within its currently allowable TOW within the CG envelope, is a paperwork exercise.
I hear they want to derate the engines as well. Knowing that, it’s 100% understandable why the airplane would need to undergo certification. It’s not simply seats being removed.
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