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Old 07-23-2019, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by too low gear
Delta still flies the 88s. I hardly see an E175 as old.
The 88 is a much stronger hull than the 175, additionally those 1752 do allot more up-downs. The cycle count is much higher.
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Old 07-23-2019, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingKat
Ed Bastian telegraphed Delta's moves at the investor conference in November and TSH isn't a part of its future. Kinda funny when the CEO of Delta says TSH is out of the picture on tape, and the TSH kool aid drinkers still can't accept it.
While I agree, it is worth mentioning Ed says lots of things that don't happen. Been hearing about them 200s going away next year for 5+ years.
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Old 07-23-2019, 03:04 PM
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Venturing out past OO now? Good for you on diversifying.
Mama Delta’s plan is to fly those birds and make as much money as possible until they can’t, everything else is clear as mud.
The bottle neck in those birds are the oldest 175s in operation, they are in poor condition, and life limited parts are nearing replacement. Additionally, they weigh more than any other 175s, they are allowed to weigh that much because of a grandfather clause explicitly for CP from NW and the conformity costs are through the roof to bring them into standard.
That’s why the airplanes are still there, Atlanta didn’t want to **** away $50 million to move them to another certificate. This could change, it could not. If they get pulled off the CP certificate they are more then likely flying to the desert.
DL will not send those airplanes to the desert, even at their age. The 175 has obviously become a fan favorite for Delta, and they are not going to park any airframes that can still generate $$$$ and keep FF happy. Speaking of the 175, why hasn't your company jumped into the game?
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Old 07-23-2019, 04:21 PM
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DL will not send those airplanes to the desert, even at their age. The 175 has obviously become a fan favorite for Delta, and they are not going to park any airframes that can still generate $$$$ and keep FF happy. Speaking of the 175, why hasn't your company jumped into the game?
By that logic they won’t park the 88 either? To be fair their mind changes weekly on that too.

That is simple: $$$$, 9E is turnkey for the program if get the planes ever came. They have the documents, the training footprint, procedures, even the line maintenance guys are certified - as a matter of fact they do OO MX in LGA.
New CEO took over last year, didn’t like the $50 million price tag attached to moving the planes and shuffled the plan. I personally don’t care as I don’t have shiney jet syndrome and don’t care to leave MSP ever. But that is why those 175s are not moving off of CP anytime soon. It’s going to cost allot of money and the planes are old and worn out.
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By that logic they won’t park the 88 either? To be fair their mind changes weekly on that too.

That is simple: $$$$, 9E is turnkey for the program if get the planes ever came. They have the documents, the training footprint, procedures, even the line maintenance guys are certified - as a matter of fact they do OO MX in LGA.
New CEO took over last year, didn’t like the $50 million price tag attached to moving the planes and shuffled the plan. I personally don’t care as I don’t have shiney jet syndrome and don’t care to leave MSP ever. But that is why those 175s are not moving off of CP anytime soon. It’s going to cost allot of money and the planes are old and worn out.
Guess time will tell....judging by what Delta is doing with their schedule regarding the A220, the 175 shuffle is just getting started.
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The myopic line pilot guess and by-gosh supposing in this thread has been embarrassing over the last two days.
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The myopic line pilot guess and by-gosh supposing in this thread has been embarrassing over the last two days.
About APC forum standard that. It is instructive to look back five years and see just how erroneous all the predictions were.

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Old 07-24-2019, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
Personally, I'd bet a chunk of those 175s orders are to replace the 170s being flown at UA/DL/AA. Replace the 170 with 70 seat 175s, move the 170 to 65 seats to be a "small RJ" at AA
This.

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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
Personally, I'd bet a chunk of those 175s orders are to replace the 170s being flown at UA/DL/AA. Replace the 170 with 70 seat 175s, move the 170 to 65 seats to be a "small RJ" at AA
No more than 30 are to replace older aircraft. The rest is growth.
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Originally Posted by stabapch
No more than 30 are to replace older aircraft. The rest is growth.
Starting their airline? Because scope is at max.
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