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Old 09-05-2018, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Missed Appch
Yes, yes they have.
Agreed. I’ll even go so far as to say there was a watershed moment that changed everything with regard to recruiting and welcoming all with open arms.

July 2018

-In July the company announced cancelled vacations for the first time
-In July the company began threatening pilots for excessive absences
-In July the company held Section 13 witch hunts for pilots not crediting enough hours
-In July the company fired probationary pilots
-In July our own Union admitted they have given up all hope
-In July our own Union asserted that the NMB will never release us
-In July our own Union announced increased efforts to get our own pilots hired at other airlines

If you still come here after all this you are part of the problem. Sorry, not sorry. Hope to see you here AFTER we get a new contract. Or maybe at a different airline after this whole thing goes Tango Uniform.
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Old 09-05-2018, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Powderkeg
Agreed. I’ll even go so far as to say there was a watershed moment that changed everything with regard to recruiting and welcoming all with open arms.

July 2018

-In July the company announced cancelled vacations for the first time
-In July the company began threatening pilots for excessive absences
-In July the company held Section 13 witch hunts for pilots not crediting enough hours
-In July the company fired probationary pilots
-In July our own Union admitted they have given up all hope
-In July our own Union asserted that the NMB will never release us
-In July our own Union announced increased efforts to get our own pilots hired at other airlines

If you still come here after all this you are part of the problem. Sorry, not sorry. Hope to see you here AFTER we get a new contract. Or maybe at a different airline after this whole thing goes Tango Uniform.
I will never fault somebody for coming here. But, after reading this list of actual and factual events I don’t understand why somebody would come in this current environment.
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Old 09-05-2018, 09:38 AM
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Zero attrition this month. Why aren’t more pilots leaving?
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Old 09-05-2018, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
Zero attrition this month. Why aren’t more pilots leaving?
10 pilots left. 2 that were on long term leave, and 8 left for other airlines.
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Old 09-05-2018, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SFA320
I will never fault somebody for coming here...

Live and let live, YOLO, get what you can no matter who you ****** on. Yay! When do I get to fly an Airbus?!?! I hope I get LAS!

You do realize, every single one of the 19 people, and all of the people that show up from now until we get a contract are telling the company they don’t care what the company does to us, it’s just fine, and the current contract is fine too.

You my friend, are part of the problem!
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Old 09-05-2018, 01:05 PM
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What’s amazing is that after number 800 on the seniority list. Pilots go backwards on position held from August to September list.
WTF
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Old 09-05-2018, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboFanMan
What’s amazing is that after number 800 on the seniority list. Pilots go backwards on position held from August to September list.
WTF
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I have been saying that for a while.
FRONTIER IS NOT GROWING !!!!!!!
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Old 09-05-2018, 01:37 PM
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I didn’t realize you could be number 1000 in August, then be 1005 in September. Lol
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Old 09-05-2018, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboFanMan
I didn’t realize you could be number 1000 in August, then be 1005 in September. Lol
Yeah but you are not seeing the big picture!!. Recruiters are saying 5000+ pilots by 2026 YAY!!!
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Old 09-05-2018, 03:03 PM
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Just a note to new hires October bid came out just over 1.5 years to hold a relief line, slightly longer in MCO but shorter in LAS. Most senior to least senior FO based on relief lines (MCO, ORD, DEN, LAS). You can either get paid crap a long time to sit reserve until we have a contract or come once we get a contract and get a line quick bc the “growth” is finally here.

We will not see a contract until the real hiring for growth occurs. Until then we’re just hiring guys to sit reserve in the meantime. Do yourself a favor and get as much pic time as you can wherever you are and apply to everywhere in the meantime. Frontier is not going anywhere they will hire you just as fast in 12 months as they will today because even with a contract they won’t be able to staff for the growth they want. Good luck.
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