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Old 05-08-2018, 02:10 PM
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FWIW, all 24 new hires showed up yesterday.
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Old 05-08-2018, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GearUpHeadDown
Electronic Logbooks ok at interview?
Yes. Print them out and have them binded by a copy store. OfficeMax, FedEx store, or similar will do this for a minimal charge. Buy some tabs and place them for important flights ie checkrides, emergencies, fed ride, or anything else that stands out.
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Old 05-09-2018, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
FWIW, all 24 new hires showed up yesterday.
How many are old ASA/Expressjet???
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Old 05-09-2018, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PulledBreaker
This. You'll be on second year pay before you see a line. So budget $39 x 75 × 12 ($35,000) to support your family for an entire year.

FYI, the company wanted to drop reserves down to 70 hours. Yes, cut your first year pay even lower. Keep that in mind if you do actually show up for an interview.
I have an interview this month. I have read many current pilots upset with the company, negotiations, pay, etc... Have read many implying new hires should not bother coming to work at Frontier & that as long as they can continue to hire it doesn’t help on the contract negotiations. If I am lucky enough to get a job offer, and accept, will I be looked at as a guy that didn’t help the cause or will I be welcomed with open arms? It is not my desire to start out on the wrong foot. I want to be a team player.
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Old 05-09-2018, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 121wannabe
I have an interview this month. I have read many current pilots upset with the company, negotiations, pay, etc... Have read many implying new hires should not bother coming to work at Frontier & that as long as they can continue to hire it doesn’t help on the contract negotiations. If I am lucky enough to get a job offer, and accept, will I be looked at as a guy that didn’t help the cause or will I be welcomed with open arms? It is not my desire to start out on the wrong foot. I want to be a team player.
Overall, the guys here understand that people have their personal reasons for coming here. You'll be welcomed. Maybe an odd ball or two won't be happy, but they'll forget about it after we get the next contract.

If it comes down to the NMB not agreeing that we are at an impasse. At that point, it becomes more critical for new hires to help the group and wait a little longer.
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Old 05-09-2018, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary et al
Overall, the guys here understand that people have their personal reasons for coming here. You'll be welcomed. Maybe an odd ball or two won't be happy, but they'll forget about it after we get the next contract.

If it comes down to the NMB not agreeing that we are at an impasse. At that point, it becomes more critical for new hires to help the group and wait a little longer.
Thanks for the info. If a strike happens and a new hire is on probation are they fired? Quitting a job to get fired doesn’t seem like a good move.
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Old 05-09-2018, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 121wannabe
Thanks for the info. If a strike happens and a new hire is on probation are they fired? Quitting a job to get fired doesn’t seem like a good move.
Historically, yes, newhires will be fired and rehired when/if a TA is signed.
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Old 05-09-2018, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RustyChain
Historically, yes, newhires will be fired and rehired when/if a TA is signed.
Thanks for the info.
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Old 05-09-2018, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 121wannabe
I have an interview this month. I have read many current pilots upset with the company, negotiations, pay, etc... Have read many implying new hires should not bother coming to work at Frontier & that as long as they can continue to hire it doesn’t help on the contract negotiations. If I am lucky enough to get a job offer, and accept, will I be looked at as a guy that didn’t help the cause or will I be welcomed with open arms? It is not my desire to start out on the wrong foot. I want to be a team player.
That is absolutely not true! Everybody is welcomed as long as you are humble and not arrogant! When I hear "this is not my first rodeo," then that is when I lift an eyebrow and say we have an individual here that is trying to prove something. Overall you will find that this is an extraordinary pilot group that are very welcoming and friendly.
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Old 05-09-2018, 08:58 AM
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I would never disparage someone new for taking a job here. That would be pretty messed up, and it could be damaging long-term.

Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t try to educate them before they committed, in order that they could make an informed decision, but if they decided to come, I would never hold it against them.
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