ULLI

Guessing a regional (Comair)
Delta had other regionals to cover flying, we don't have anyone to cover our flying.

TurboFanMan

May class headcount?

Blueskies67

They wanted mid 20s will be interesting to see what they got.

ecam

Wow.

Someone please teach the children today about the history of their industry and the battles that were fought by others before them to have the industry they whine about today.

dracir1

Wasn’t trying to whine. Not sure how I gave that impression.

The question was more so for hisher specific experience. I’m well aware of the history of airline industry...

But thanks for your input. It’s clear that if you misinterpreted my words to the extent you did, Im sure others did as well.

ecam

Sorry. Wasn't personally attacking you, just millennials in general. and yes, I hear an awful lot of whining today about things we would have loved to be able to whine about 20 years ago, flying wreck turboprops 10 legs a day with hardly functioning AC and 5 deferrals, no autopilot

Comair, 89 day strike in 2000. First regional to walk and first ever strike against delta air, who owned us at the time. And they never forgave us. We took a bullet to create the regional industry you know today and where most of the youngsters launched their career. Before us, it was second and third tier "commuter pilots" in tiny turboprop "puddle jumper" planes who were paid pennies on the dollar compared to mainline. We were treated like the farm leagues. We stood up and said No, we are a REAL airline" and will be compensated and respected accordingly. The heyday of the regionals followed.

So yes, it bothers me a little when jet kids (pilots who basically grew up in a jet, straight out of flight school) have no frame of reference for those of us back in the day who fought for what they enjoyed in their career. We paved that path. Again, not attacking you personally, just an old geezer speaking in general (ranting).

Gary et al

Are some young guys that way, yes.

It just sucks that you seem to have a predisposition about all millennials, and any young guy that flies with you has to fight this stereotype you assume them to be first before you give them respect.

Some have had it easier, some have had it harder, back in the 80's guys were getting hired at mainline carriers in their mid 20's. That isn't happening today at the rate it was then, not yet anyway. Its a cyclical career and industry. Some just get lucky to be born at the right time to ride that wave. We all do appreciate that changes those stuck between the waves made to create a better industry.

dracir1

Good words.

I'm in my 40s and by no means a millennial but didn't know about that particular strike.

But, I'm glad I asked as your point is a good one wrt the change it brought about. Despite what happened to Comair later - which was a shame - it did bring about prosperity in other forms.

Seemingly, labor strikes often do.

DC7C

I got a section 13 at my previous scummy operator for taking a 14 min. delay to get 5 Comair guys on my plane to picket! Ahh the good old(new)days.... Nothing better than potentially watching you future career at a major go up in smoke over that issue. The CEO of our crappy regional PERSONALLY got involved in trying to fire me for “sabotaging the operation, creating a hostile work environment and illegally participating in an illegal work action”. I got saved but it was almost worth it knowing I nearly caused the guy to have a heart attack. We remember! Thanks for walking the line...

ecam

Thanks for your support. Someone had to stand up in that era and say enough was enough. I guess it was just our turn. But rest assured, as we walked that line, we also knew we had torched our careers. And it was still worth it.