Frontier Hiring.
02-28-2018, 08:15 AM
#8451
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 687
I wish there was a way to go back in time 20 years so that you could follow my career progression. I’d tell you to watch what I did and then do the exact opposite! I’ve pretty much made the wrong decision every time a decision needed to be made.
Without boring you with all the details, most of my bad decisions can be summed up by pointing out that I was chasing “quality of life” early in my career instead of attaining whatever the best airlines were looking for in terms of hiring criteria.
Things change and there’s no way to know *exactly* what the best airlines will want, but PIC and Education are constant themes. The more you have of both, the more options you’ll have.
Warning: Old Fart advice ahead... “Quality of life” will be more important to you 10 years from now than it is today. The platitude posters are mostly wrong when they say money can’t buy happiness. If you have a bunch of excess money, the annoyances of life can be mitigated. If your pay scale is high enough and you’re not working for a bottom feeder ULCC, you can afford to work less and spend more time at home even if you’re commuting. You won’t feel like your spouse has to work which will mean more quality time when you’re home. You can hire out more time consuming and undesireable tasks around the house.
Yes, the industry goes up and the industry goes down. I remember for a brief flash in time, F9 pilots were being paid better than UAL narrowbody pilots. That was a short-lived anomaly. As I’ve said in previous posts, yes, all airlines have issues. F9 continues to struggle with BS Third World style issues while better airlines have First World issues.
TL/DR: Do NOW whatever it takes to get on with a high quality airline ASAP because you’ll appreciate the QOL this provides between age 30 and retirement MUCH more than the limited improvement you’ll see by taking the instant gratification of going to a less desirable ULCC today.
My humble opinion as a 50 year old, 2nd career, 14 year F9 guy. Take it (or leave it) for what it’s worth!
Without boring you with all the details, most of my bad decisions can be summed up by pointing out that I was chasing “quality of life” early in my career instead of attaining whatever the best airlines were looking for in terms of hiring criteria.
Things change and there’s no way to know *exactly* what the best airlines will want, but PIC and Education are constant themes. The more you have of both, the more options you’ll have.
Warning: Old Fart advice ahead... “Quality of life” will be more important to you 10 years from now than it is today. The platitude posters are mostly wrong when they say money can’t buy happiness. If you have a bunch of excess money, the annoyances of life can be mitigated. If your pay scale is high enough and you’re not working for a bottom feeder ULCC, you can afford to work less and spend more time at home even if you’re commuting. You won’t feel like your spouse has to work which will mean more quality time when you’re home. You can hire out more time consuming and undesireable tasks around the house.
Yes, the industry goes up and the industry goes down. I remember for a brief flash in time, F9 pilots were being paid better than UAL narrowbody pilots. That was a short-lived anomaly. As I’ve said in previous posts, yes, all airlines have issues. F9 continues to struggle with BS Third World style issues while better airlines have First World issues.
TL/DR: Do NOW whatever it takes to get on with a high quality airline ASAP because you’ll appreciate the QOL this provides between age 30 and retirement MUCH more than the limited improvement you’ll see by taking the instant gratification of going to a less desirable ULCC today.
My humble opinion as a 50 year old, 2nd career, 14 year F9 guy. Take it (or leave it) for what it’s worth!
Frontier Inerview gouge
03-01-2018, 04:05 PM
#8458
On Reserve
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 20
There were some pilots there who had done some sort of interview prep with one of the prep companies and they were not hired. I do not want to steer you down the wrong road but in my interview there was 18 interviewees and 6 were hired none of us had used a professional prep service.
03-05-2018, 11:31 AM
#8460
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 306
Anyone showing up to work for this company shows their complete desperation. I truly feel pity for you. Just do a little homework. how could you volunteer to pay to work at this company after the last bag of dawg sit offer they tossed across the table with complete disdain and their apathy for the LOA 67 arbitrator ruling?
I can understand the hopeful thinking that goes on when you reach into your pocket and fork over thousands of dollars in lodging costs, tens of thousands of dollars in lost near term income, and hundreds of thousands/ possibly millions of dollars in long term income, all to try to further your career. But the people who run this airline are preying on you!!! They are laughing at the fact that people will literally cover all their costs to someday, possibly, maybe, god willing move up a rung on the ladder of the airline career game. Laughing!!, and at the same time lining their pockets with stacks of cash. They are unapologetic, greedy and uncaring. It’s too easy. Not enough people showing up, well, just lower the mins and then “poof” more suckers scrambling for a spot.
Hope you like 4 hr 2 day trips. Hope you like 12 hr 4 days. Hope you like two leg red eyes with 11 hours off then back at it again. Just look at flight aware at 2:00 am. Its all Frontier! Crisscrossing the continent in the middle of the night for less than RJ pay. You know what, never mind, you guys will justify anything even if you know it’s a crap deal. We are forever optimistic. Good luck getting hired. I just really hope you have no other choice.
I volunteer my time to help the union, I am actively trying to get out, with a recent/upcoming interview. So the jackasses that love to say “you dont like it, why are you still working here” can GFYs.
See y’all on the 7th, Find any way you can to go if you’re not working!
100%READY TO STRIKE!!!
I can understand the hopeful thinking that goes on when you reach into your pocket and fork over thousands of dollars in lodging costs, tens of thousands of dollars in lost near term income, and hundreds of thousands/ possibly millions of dollars in long term income, all to try to further your career. But the people who run this airline are preying on you!!! They are laughing at the fact that people will literally cover all their costs to someday, possibly, maybe, god willing move up a rung on the ladder of the airline career game. Laughing!!, and at the same time lining their pockets with stacks of cash. They are unapologetic, greedy and uncaring. It’s too easy. Not enough people showing up, well, just lower the mins and then “poof” more suckers scrambling for a spot.
Hope you like 4 hr 2 day trips. Hope you like 12 hr 4 days. Hope you like two leg red eyes with 11 hours off then back at it again. Just look at flight aware at 2:00 am. Its all Frontier! Crisscrossing the continent in the middle of the night for less than RJ pay. You know what, never mind, you guys will justify anything even if you know it’s a crap deal. We are forever optimistic. Good luck getting hired. I just really hope you have no other choice.
I volunteer my time to help the union, I am actively trying to get out, with a recent/upcoming interview. So the jackasses that love to say “you dont like it, why are you still working here” can GFYs.
See y’all on the 7th, Find any way you can to go if you’re not working!
100%READY TO STRIKE!!!
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