Gary et al

It might "joke" but dang man, you're really into lanyards. If the union instructs us to turn the 7 into an 8, and next year and 9 and so on...I'll put it back on. But right now the current one says Contract 2017. That didn't happen, I'm not whining...its simply a fact. Our union workers and negotiating committee are working hard for all of us and from the strike vote to the picketing it is clear we are a unified group that fully supports them. I'm also sure that our union probably already has new lanyards on the way. I don't think "contract 2017" sends the right message any longer based on series of events throughout last year. Send me a 100% ready to strike lanyard, leave your 2017 ones back in 2017, otherwise they resemble defeat, and we are anything but defeated.

Below is what I really wanted to message you:

Eat a dick

Jk.

Shrek

With all the I’s and me’s in that reply the message to the pilot group is loud and clear.

dracir1

Touche'.

To your point, I can't stand lanyards and never used one until the union sent me the orange one and told me to wear and why. So I do. I don't really think it's the writing on it that's important but the color - supposedly they want any pilot group in negotiations to wear orange (I think I heard that somewhere). Plus, as mentioned before, since 2017 is over, it shows that our contract is overdue - not that we're defeated. I'm not really sure how you come to that conclusion as it's a negotiation...since it didn't happen in 2017 like the lanyard states that means it's not gonna happen ever? Defeat, to me, is not wearing the lanyard at all. You're just one more person who isn't "showing" solidarity (despite how much you say you're down for the cause). Plus, I'd rather have the union spend my dues on getting me a new contract instead of another 1200 or so lanyards.

Just difference of opinion. Either way, we're both in the same boat and on the same team.

Carbonrider

The lanyards are a symbol. Anyone simple enough to get wrapped around the axle about what's written on them, simply doesn't get it. I love seeing these fukktards walking around not even wearing one. "It's too tight, I don't like Orange-it makes me look fat, my kid gave me this Star Wars lanyard, I like to show my support for the Cleveland Browns or Denver Mules, I'm an A-350 fan" and on and on.

There's always going to be a contention of people that don't get it. Unfortunately at Frontier, we seem to have more than our fair share of them. Give these people sh!t when you see them. 98% of us don't volunteer to help the cause, at least we can wear a lanyard showing support for the 2% that do.

Bolo

Finally somebody that gets it! Well put!

For the idiot that does not want to wear one because it does not say 2018, get a clue!

Powderkeg

Agree 100%. In fact I think ALPA should save the money and let us keep wearing these. When anybody from the flying public mentions the “out of date” lanyard we can use it as an opportunity to educate them on our contract being “out of date”.

“Thank you, Sir, for noticing my lanyard. We had these lanyards made up last year to help bring attention to our plight. For all intents and purposes we saw no reason we should not have a contract in 2017. Unfortunately we underestimated our management team’s greed and continue to fight for the working conditions commensurate with our profession. Did you notice my matching orange ‘100% ready to strike’ luggage handle? Have a nice day!”

Nacho Libre

I absolutely agree!!

SFA320

Well put! I saw the A-350 one awhile back. Why? Why? Why!?

Arty13

I find myself agreeing with Bolo. 😱 (shocked face)

pbsimmons85

Hey all,

While testing the waters to see what it might take to break into the airline industry, I was led to this site and couldn't help but be taken aback by the disparaging remarks concerning Frontier's career outlook and business practices. Granted, I come from a place of ignorance concerning the day to day, ins and outs, of this industry but to see all the negative comments both surprised and saddened me.

I implore anyone who is speaking ill of this company's practices to view this: https://www.netflix.com/watch/701900...7aafb-47318887

If you don't have Netflix this video is available any places on the internet. I will let you decide whether it is worth watching if you are not able to view it within the confines of the law.

At any rate, regardless of worldly numbers, statistics, and expectations, this is a company and a CEO that I would be PROUD to work for. Mr. Bedford has his ear to the ground and is actively listening and responding to the heartbeat of his workers and their families. Sure the pay is lower. Sure there is stiff competition. Sure the unions make things more complex then they need to be. But at the end of the day, Mr. Bedford has a heart first for God, then his Family, and then his earthly appointment and he is bringing something to the dark and greedy world of corporate America that not many can stand up and say "I'll do that."

Of course, there will be naysayers to this piece, but "Blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man." - Luke 6:22

We need to stand up for men like this, who boldly go against the norms and the status quo of this world, and follow Jesus to make a real impact on those who are open to receive.

I hope this message finds you all blessed immeasurably and all of the complaints and grievances you may have with this company or with Mr. Bedford are put to rest. Thank you for taking the time to read this message and may God bless you and increase your station as He sees fit.

-Peter Simmons
"And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God's love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow--not even the powers of hell can separate us from God's love." - Romans 8:38

PS: If you are unable to use Netflix, Google Undercover Boss, Season 2, Episode 4