FAULTPUSH

In ground school last week, Siegel said 10% growth per year, which would mean maybe 12 months. If you live here, reserve is pretty cush, especially in the late reserve window. I'm at 200 hours for the year, and that includes some vacation pickup and VJA/JA's.

Reset

What would be the upgrade time for a new hire now? Would some one hired now need to be concerned about not being able to hold one of f9's current bases, if say frontier opens another base on the east coast?

checksix72

Pardon my ignorance ... VJA/JA?

JA, I think anyway, is Junior Assignment ... What is a Junior Assignment, and a "V" Junior Assignment? (military background here and not real smert on a lot of this stuff...)

sulkair

Hey Fault, do you think late shift reserve will still be good.with all.the redeyes that have been added? I wanted to bid it but holy smokes there were so many redeyes that do.a.30 hour layover then convert to a 4 day with early shows.

FAULTPUSH

We'll see! I really liked the redeyes a few years back, except for them being 1 too many legs for a 3 day trip. In the fall when the flying slows down (hopefully), if you load 6 reserve days in a row, the typical worst case is a redeye on day 4, and back early on day 6, for only 1 day gone that week.

VJA = Voluntary Junior Assignment, which works thusly: You go online with FLiCA and specify what kind of VJA you're interested in (e.g. turns on Monday/Wednesday that leave before 10am and pay at least 5 hours of credit), and if they have a trip that they can't cover with reserves, they go from top to bottom of the seniority list calling people whose requests match the trip. If you answer, or call back, you get the trip with 125% pay credit. JA pays 150%, and goes from bottom to top of the seniority list calling every pilot who is legal for the trip. Over 82 credit hours for the month and you get 125% incentive applied too, which makes a total of 156% for VJA's and 188% for JA's.

wrxpilot

Hey guys, I got the call for the Monday interview! I'm really excited... I've always wanted to work for Frontier and can't believe I have a shot at this! Finally, light at the end of the tunnel for regional purgatory...

FAULTPUSH

Sorry - I only half answered your question. No risk of getting converted to early flying, because they can only add flying if you return to domicile within your reserve window (after 5pm/7pm). If return before then, you get at least 10 hours rest. If you get back much after 1pm, but before your reserve window, you're pretty much done for the day because by the time you get your 10 hours of rest, it'll be too late in the evening for them to use you. But then again, some of the redeye trips in the past have gone from the redeye to morning flying, but only for days 3 and 4 at the most.

If they do 10% per year like Siegel said, then upgrade would be about 6-7 years. Methinks it'll be faster (15% growth = 3-4 years).

As a 12 year employee, I'm concerned that I might not be able to hold Denver (as captain) if we open a base on the east coast. But don't worry, they pay your moving costs if it's involuntary!

silver fleet

I'm going to keep trying! My cover letter must suck. Ive filled out/updated monthly and nothing. 6.3k TT (mostly 121/135) 2.2k TPIC...I wonder what it takes!?!?!?!?

Barley

Flight experience requirements at any airline are completely arbitrary. Nobody cares how much TPIC time you have. You're not going to perform simple repetitive tasks in a relative order any better than the next guy just because you have a few more or less hours sitting on your butt watching an autopilot do all the work.

Typically internal recs go a long way, but I know of folks getting hired without internals. Like any job that you want just keep updating your information and wait. It took me years of application updates to get my last job. You have to understand that almost every airline has more applications on file than employed pilots. There is no shortage of qualified applicants and I don't foresee a day where that's ever going to be an issue.

Kiowa

Hello. I am curious what attrition is like at Frontier? Are people jumping to the legacy carriers in any significant numbers? Thank you.