OpenClimb

If push came to shove and we could somehow verify exactly what this braggart did or did not do, I'm betting the original poster is exaggerating his vacation successes. This being said, I'm also sure the Company is well aware of whatever success F9 pilots are or are not having with our current rules so posting a story on APC isn't exactly sharing State secrets.

The value of vacation has been enhanced in recent years by the way the Company builds pairings. We're flying point-to-point more often and it is common to leave your domicile on day 1 and not return until day 4. Combine this with the fact that the pairings are less productive and we're left with schedules that are commonly no better than 4 on followed by 3 off.

With a 7 day vacation period, it's pretty easy to touch 2 4 day trips and wind up with 17 days off in a row. The ironic part of this whole deal is that the Company has effectively given us what other carriers call "trip touching" for vacation--which we don't have in our contract, but really should.

I've never understood why people lie about things in an attempt to bolster their argument. In the end, it damages your credibility and does the exact opposite.

Carry on.

NWSteeringArmer

If I get the line I need, I'll post my schedule

whooooooocares

is what APC states on the F9 page correct in reference to classes starting every 1st monday of the month.

TurboFanMan

Yes, 20-30.

dang

One thing that continues to surprise me is how many "older" guys think our current contract is good. The vacation is good. But besides that there's a lot of crap. That worries me for negotiations.

Missed Appch

I can't believe anyone thinks we have a good contract. It's awful. We have some senior people who are so scared of a strike or going out of business, that I think they've convinced themselves that things are good here. Those people have their heads up their asses. It'll get better, but it's gonna take a fight.

dracir1

So, the APC Frontier page was updated due to pay scale?

CantStayAway

Yes. Part of LOA 67. It was a minor upward adjustment referrred to as a "snapback" to get us back to pre-concessionary rates. We're still the lowest paid airbus pilots in the US so it wasn't much. Roughly $2/hr.

Missed Appch

Mine was $6.00. Now I'm only $79.00 an hour from what I'd actually vote yes on.

OHPilot213

Yes. I agree with this and am in the same boat.