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Old 03-04-2017, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CantStayAway
As for the list, it looks like they finally started updating the numbers on it again. Starting last fall when people were leaving the company wasn't changing the number next to pilot names. I'm not sure it's 100% accurate now, but on Flica I'm only 5 numbers from the list in March (vs. 25 numbers in February).
I agree, months went by without the number beside your name changing.
Then the number one pilot retires and I still didn't move up. Finally the list changes drastically. Like you, I'm not sure it's correct even now.
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Old 03-04-2017, 05:27 AM
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What's the average new hire look like at Frontier? Time, background, etc.
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Old 03-04-2017, 06:44 AM
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What's the average new hire look like at Frontier? Time, background, etc.
I was:

10 year regional pilot
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Old 03-04-2017, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jrav8r
What's the average new hire look like at Frontier? Time, background, etc.
I started with just shy of three years 121 regional experience. I was a Flight Instructor before that. Basically if you meet the minimums they will give you a fair chance.
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Old 03-04-2017, 08:46 AM
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I think Frontier hires a very wide variety of pilots. Some really young guys and some old guys. Wide variety of experience, background and age. There is no normal
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Old 03-04-2017, 09:58 AM
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Why would anyone go to Frontier or Spirit to work in this current environment? The regional airlines pay more, offer quick upgrades and offer flow through/interviews. You will make more money at a regional and are more likely to get to a major airline that actually pays its pilot's a fair wage. It is hard to believe I am actually saying this, but your future is better by going to a regional airline and staying away from Frontier and Spirit until they step up with a contract worthy of your skills as a pilot.
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Old 03-04-2017, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by thor55
Why would anyone go to Frontier or Spirit to work in this current environment? The regional airlines pay more, offer quick upgrades and offer flow through/interviews. You will make more money at a regional and are more likely to get to a major airline that actually pays its pilot's a fair wage. It is hard to believe I am actually saying this, but your future is better by going to a regional airline and staying away from Frontier and Spirit until they step up with a contract worthy of your skills as a pilot.
Each his own. 20-30 guys a month roll into Frontier, obviously it's not that black and white. Lol
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Originally Posted by thor55
Why would anyone go to Frontier or Spirit to work in this current environment? The regional airlines pay more, offer quick upgrades and offer flow through/interviews. You will make more money at a regional and are more likely to get to a major airline that actually pays its pilot's a fair wage. It is hard to believe I am actually saying this, but your future is better by going to a regional airline and staying away from Frontier and Spirit until they step up with a contract worthy of your skills as a pilot.
Spirit has fantastic work rules compared to any regional out there.

For both Frontier and Spirit, the Airbus type rating and time in a heavier, more comfortable airplane to fly is more valuable than grinding it out in a CRJ/ERJ.

You will not make more money at a regional, maybe in year 1-2, but what about after that? the ULCCs pull away pretty quick and leave the regionals in the dust.

Both Spirit and Frontier are working new contracts that will take some time and will be hard-fought, but will leave them both in very good positions for their pilots.

If the economy tanks, where would you rather be? flying the CRJ into Aberdeen, SD or flying a bus from ORD to FLL?
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Old 03-04-2017, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
Spirit has fantastic work rules compared to any regional out there.

For both Frontier and Spirit, the Airbus type rating and time in a heavier, more comfortable airplane to fly is more valuable than grinding it out in a CRJ/ERJ.

You will not make more money at a regional, maybe in year 1-2, but what about after that? the ULCCs pull away pretty quick and leave the regionals in the dust.

Both Spirit and Frontier are working new contracts that will take some time and will be hard-fought, but will leave them both in very good positions for their pilots.

If the economy tanks, where would you rather be? flying the CRJ into Aberdeen, SD or flying a bus from ORD to FLL?
Regionals are not even close on the work rules. Flow throughs, hope that one shot works or your flying a puddle jumper for a long time.
Banking on contracts with majors being renewed. No Thanks!!!
The one thing everyone knows at a regional is don't bank on a flow through!!
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Originally Posted by thor55
Why would anyone go to Frontier or Spirit to work in this current environment? The regional airlines pay more, offer quick upgrades and offer flow through/interviews. You will make more money at a regional and are more likely to get to a major airline that actually pays its pilot's a fair wage. It is hard to believe I am actually saying this, but your future is better by going to a regional airline and staying away from Frontier and Spirit until they step up with a contract worthy of your skills as a pilot.
Why is year 1 always the end-all be-all with the forum police? I make far more on year 2 than I did after 7 years at the regionals. I'll never criticize anyone for improving their earning potential, especially when UAL doesn't call, as if snapping your fingers is all it takes.
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