Frontier Hiring.
02-23-2017, 05:31 PM
#6981
On Reserve
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Right Seat
Posts: 23
My hat is off to you for doing the right thing, I totally understand your reasons for just paying it.
I guess what I don't understand is the guys worrying to pay it back? You signed it, and knew what you were singing. I understand if you get a offer from Delta or whoever before the 2 years is up. Move on then, but you won't have any trouble paying it back. I would reconsider the thought of coming to Frontier if you have a problem with the contract. Also, at the end of the day I doubt they would want you here anyways. I understood what I signed, and I will abide by it.
I think people need to put it in perspective. If you owned your own personal business big or small, and put an employee through a month of training that cost you 7000 you would not wanna see him or her leave in 2 months. You would want your money, cause now it's cost you 14,000 dollars to put another through. To mean it's common sense, maybe I'm old and understand values who knows. Or maybe it's because I'm a business owner. You sign it, you pay it. Black and white.....
I guess what I don't understand is the guys worrying to pay it back? You signed it, and knew what you were singing. I understand if you get a offer from Delta or whoever before the 2 years is up. Move on then, but you won't have any trouble paying it back. I would reconsider the thought of coming to Frontier if you have a problem with the contract. Also, at the end of the day I doubt they would want you here anyways. I understood what I signed, and I will abide by it.
I think people need to put it in perspective. If you owned your own personal business big or small, and put an employee through a month of training that cost you 7000 you would not wanna see him or her leave in 2 months. You would want your money, cause now it's cost you 14,000 dollars to put another through. To mean it's common sense, maybe I'm old and understand values who knows. Or maybe it's because I'm a business owner. You sign it, you pay it. Black and white.....
I would think a contract is in the near future for all the animals, but know some might disagree on here.. Pilots are not a dime a dozen any more, and they'll be pressed to obtain, and retain the group at some point, but know that training contract is not helping the process out...
Sad thing was Frontier called while I was in training, and had to turn them down:/, and didn't want to jump around...
Good Luck, hope you all get a killer contact that you all deserve..
Lunch Box.
02-23-2017, 09:01 PM
#6986
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 550
Ya, sorry I should have phrased that differently. Guys who came off IOE 3-4 months ago are currently holding relief lines. Hard lines are right at a year after DOH. As the base matures, that will likely go up just like ORD.
That is, unless they announce another pilot base this fall...
That is, unless they announce another pilot base this fall...
02-24-2017, 06:22 AM
#6988
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: 1900D CA
Posts: 3,476
Exactly. People on this thread seem to forget that 50% of the RJ guys in this country are FOs and make less than 50 bucks and hour, and a lot of them are not anywhere close to an upgrade. For them, and there are thousands of them, Frontier makes sense.
02-24-2017, 07:59 AM
#6989
Pro Button Pusher
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: A320 Series CA
Posts: 183
no sh!t bro, wish they would fizzle out like a bad fart.They seem to be going after a few folks who they claim to owe $$.
The 'leverage' they 'had' to get the 'fee's' 'they' claimed we owed them, was - our jobs... was when they were our Appointed/Forced/Under Duress/Ploting Against Us/Supposed to but Not Representing us / non-representation entity. The contract supported them - --->While they were the NMB MANDATED Reps.
That ship has sailed..... Bye, bye,.......
Everyone on property, (as of the sale to Indigo), is a member in Good standing, in the union, once represented by FAPA, now by ALPA.
turdsters had a chance to attempt to Extort fees when they were here; by having pilots fired for fee's; but they are not the rep body Now. They are nobody. They have nothing signed by anyone, saying they will pay anything. They have NOTHING.
Sorry for the rant, I apologize to all, just these assturds **** me off.
History 101.
We got eonough to deal with EVERYDAY, forget these Assclowns.
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02-24-2017, 08:01 AM
#6990
Pro Button Pusher
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: A320 Series CA
Posts: 183
Hey guys, just wanted to shed some light on the question about the enforcement of a employment bond, or "training contract".
In Colorado, they ARE enforceable- as they are in most states- as long as the term is no more than two years, and the amount is a reasonable and realistic amount for recuperation. (See my reference below).
The employer might not pursue the collection, or might turn it over to a collection center. But the law would be on their side. I wish it wasn't so
https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/sit...-113%20CRS.pdf
In Colorado, they ARE enforceable- as they are in most states- as long as the term is no more than two years, and the amount is a reasonable and realistic amount for recuperation. (See my reference below).
The employer might not pursue the collection, or might turn it over to a collection center. But the law would be on their side. I wish it wasn't so
https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/sit...-113%20CRS.pdf
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