Lunch Box

Well here's what people tend to miss within this process; The debt collection process, they will work this, and it's cheep for them! Any given company will work collections, etc, and the credit effect first before court proceedings if they give a sh.t., and mean it.

I'm speaking form expericence here with this; I moved on to an LLC with part of my training contract left. I had set aside the money to pay it back, but wasn't going to hand the money over without them asking for it. Well, got the certified letter in the mail within a year along with the demand, and the process to follow if not paid; Collections, and then court. I wrote the check, and sent it in. Once it was cashed they called me to thank me, and I replied what for?? (Company), "For paying us back". Some small talk occurred, and this is not the common route buy others before me..

In the end, it wasn't worth wreaking or risking my credit, and it was a commitment that I gave. I'm not trying to bash the guy's and gal's wishing to breaking them! I think there's a time and place for everything to happen. Looking back I'm really glad I made the move; QOL, pay, etc...

Wish you Frontier guys and gals the best, and good hunting with that contract.

Lunch Box

Kestrel

Hey guys, just wanted to shed some light on the question about the enforcement of a employment bond, or "training contract".

In Colorado, they ARE enforceable- as they are in most states- as long as the term is no more than two years, and the amount is a reasonable and realistic amount for recuperation. (See my reference below).

The employer might not pursue the collection, or might turn it over to a collection center. But the law would be on their side. I wish it wasn't so

https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/sit...-113%20CRS.pdf

TurboFanMan

My hat is off to you for doing the right thing, I totally understand your reasons for just paying it.
I guess what I don't understand is the guys worrying to pay it back? You signed it, and knew what you were singing. I understand if you get a offer from Delta or whoever before the 2 years is up. Move on then, but you won't have any trouble paying it back. I would reconsider the thought of coming to Frontier if you have a problem with the contract. Also, at the end of the day I doubt they would want you here anyways. I understood what I signed, and I will abide by it.

I think people need to put it in perspective. If you owned your own personal business big or small, and put an employee through a month of training that cost you 7000 you would not wanna see him or her leave in 2 months. You would want your money, cause now it's cost you 14,000 dollars to put another through. To mean it's common sense, maybe I'm old and understand values who knows. Or maybe it's because I'm a business owner. You sign it, you pay it. Black and white.....

PulledBreaker

Neither of which F9 is asking new hires to sign. It's titled an "agreement". Not a contract, and not a bond. I'd recommend that new hires have an attorney spend 30 minutes going over it with you before you show up to class.

PulledBreaker

Exactly. You know the deal going in.

Xdashdriver

While it may be titled an agreement, it contains all the elements required of a contract so the distinction is irrelevant.

whooooooocares

Can anyone shed some current light on resv life. What it's like, how long will you spend on resv. If you bid resv when you can hold a line will you get used often.

I looked back on previous pages but would like some current info. Thanks a lot

Yetifan

Shouldn't having a signing contract be enough info why not to work for this operation? The Frontier guys who are saying this is a good place to be should be ashamed of themselves...

TurboFanMan

Another person who is completely fine with paying out of their own pocket 14,000 in less than 2 months on the example above.
Absolutely ridculious.

turbojet28

In ORD, reserve is pretty simple. As in, you hardly ever fly. It was busier in Dec and Jan, but so far my experience has been that 30 hours of credit in one month is a busy month. Not uncommon whatsoever to go 2-3 weeks at a time without getting used. Reserve is right at about a year in ORD right now. Overall very low stress. There are a few people who bid short call reserve that could hold lines, I assume under the idea that they will end up being home way more.

Not sure about the other bases - all of my classmates in DEN have held lines for months.