dracir1

Same ol discussions...

OK, for anyone who doesn't work at F9 but is reading - this place is not great. The work rules on the contract are decent in some areas and horrible in others. My previous regional had better rules overall. But, as mentioned so many times previously, the pay is better so that's why I'm here. I knew what the pay was when I applied, interviewed, showed up for training and today. That pay scale hasn't changed - silly for me really to complain about it. Fortunately, there are actions taking place to increase that pay. I understand why the company is stalling so while it is frustrating, I at least know that there IS a process that has worked in the past w/ this specific owner. It is because we are in the midst of negotiations that this place is not great. Morale is low, customer service is dismal and anytime that it snows, the operation is essentially a failure. Even on great weather days, the operation is rarely smooth and I'll be the first to admit that it is difficult being a part of something that is this disorganized. So, I am prepared to strike as I'm all but sure it will take that to get anything close to improvement as well as expecting whatever is offered will not be industry leading nor will it be everything I want.

So, if you're at a regional or corporate or separated/retired military and you want to better your pay, then come. The interview process really isn't too difficult and it seems like once you've met the minimums, a small investment in OBAP or WAI or FAPA will get your resume' looked at. Like just about every other airline, 97% of the aircrew and gate agents here are great, friendly and have a can do attitude. And, like me, you need to be looking to make the jump to something better (not sure about the legality of the training contract).

For those who DO work at F9 - I don't have to tell you to get ready. Stop whining, do your job while on the line and get ready. Make sure you don't do anything stupid while flying - just fly the way you would if you were being paid whatever you think is fair. The same way that we all know why the company is stalling is the same way they know we're willing to do our jobs and that's it. Since it may take a while before we are released (and you're junior enough), continue to try and get to someone where 2nd year FO pay is better than 5th year CA pay here. All the while, save up about a month's worth of salary and put in savings. Tell yourself that, when the time comes, you will need to walk a picket line, maybe even in the coldest of winter times.

Overall, in about 6 years (give or take 2 years), I fully expect this will be a decent place to work. New planes, decent pay, decent contract and decent route struture. I can live w/ that.

G650

Had a recruiter call me the other day just as I was starting engines. He promised to call back the following day and never did. Perhaps, some one knows who I can contact to get back in touch with recruiting?
Thanks in advance.

Yabadaba

Seriously... wearing a hat implies you are proud to work at Frontier? Maybe he is bald, bad hair day, short and it makes him look taller? Who really cares. The fact you have issues with it tells me everything.

I have worked for several companies that had a lower public approval than Frontier and at the end of the day, it's just a job. Just do it and go home.

Dracir1 was spot on. I have been here less than 2 years and agree this place has issues, but if you didn't know what you were getting into it is your own fault.

monkeybrains

You're right, details are important. Our contract is amendable 3/17. We opened early in 3/16, and contracts NEVER expire under the RLA....they become amendable.

ReserveCA

No duh.....
All I'm saying is the way we have been treated over the past more than a decade.....
Indigo better be prepared to GIVE on EVERY contract item....
For me every individual item is a deal breaker...hence strike yesterday

dracir1

It will be interesting to see what the first TA looks like proposed 2 - 3 days into the strike and how many pilots are willing to accept it.

sulkair

I'm sorry man. Didn't mean to insinuate you didn't understand, I was trying to convey that I'm learning it's a gruelling process. The dude saying we are a failed group was the impetus for me feeling I needed to spell it out - not you.

Mugatu

That is a very realistic possibility and I'm sure one scenario in BB's playbook. Hopefully our MEC will hold tight and not allow that to happen.

VegassBus

Sorry guys, as much as I would love to see it happen, I don't see any Airline being released by a TRUMP Administration

Trowserchilli

Really?

Your going to bring the election into this?

Grow up