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12-21-2016, 04:15 PM
#6431
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Christmas day.... a day in which every other airline pulls back the flight schedule after noon... except for you know who....
I am sure our ramp personnel will be glad to come in on Christmas and work in the snow for their min wage. No sick outs here....
I am sure our ramp personnel will be glad to come in on Christmas and work in the snow for their min wage. No sick outs here....
12-21-2016, 04:45 PM
#6432
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It seems simple: the ULCC business model views airline seats as a commodity and nothing more, for better or worse. If investing in the infrastructure needed in order to prevent these meltdowns from ever happening creates a CASM too high for the business model, these meltdowns will just become an unfortunate and accepted reality. What remains to be seen is how the market will respond to these types of events - if consumers in the aggregate are willing to accept them once or twice a year in order to (usually) make it to their destination on the expected day at a rock bottom price, or if they consider the risk just too high and are unwilling to take a chance even at a low price.
My guess is that no significant changes will be made, at least not any that substantially raise costs, and they will effectively hedge their bets that the next time people see that $50 fare to Miami they will still book it enough to fill up the plane. Perhaps maybe an attempt at a positive PR cycle through social media, etc, but I just don't see much else if they are true to this new business model. I feel it's just going to be a new norm.
My guess is that no significant changes will be made, at least not any that substantially raise costs, and they will effectively hedge their bets that the next time people see that $50 fare to Miami they will still book it enough to fill up the plane. Perhaps maybe an attempt at a positive PR cycle through social media, etc, but I just don't see much else if they are true to this new business model. I feel it's just going to be a new norm.
12-21-2016, 07:13 PM
#6433
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
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As long as Indigo is at the helm, this is what life will be like. Whether it's underpaid rampers, snow, or heck anything that upsets the status quo, if the balance sheet from the previous eleven weeks is higher than the loss in week twelve it will just continue.
I just hope next time everyone bones up on the reassignment language in the contract instead of hanging out in hotel rooms on their days off, or sitting on hold with scheduling for three hours. Just go home...
I just hope next time everyone bones up on the reassignment language in the contract instead of hanging out in hotel rooms on their days off, or sitting on hold with scheduling for three hours. Just go home...
12-21-2016, 07:13 PM
#6434
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I heard the fines imposed on F9 will be well in excess of 4 million because of the tarmac delays in Denver. Would've been much cheaper to pay the rampers/agents triple and and not have them walk off.
But who am I kidding, that makes too much sense
But who am I kidding, that makes too much sense
12-21-2016, 09:35 PM
#6435
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https://www.google.com/amp/kdvr.com/2016/12/21/whistleblower-says-frontier-was-affected-by-walkout/amp/
DENVER -- A whistleblower says Frontier Airlines is lying when it says no workers walked off the job during Saturday's snowstorm leading to an operational meltdown that left countless passengers and baggage stranded at Denver International Airport this week.
The employee, whose identity FOX31 agreed to protect, works for Simplicity USA, the vendor in charge of ramp and baggage operations for Frontier.
"There was only 12 of us at most that stayed for the evening shift," said the worker referring to Saturday night when DIA received an unexpected eight inches of snow.
The employee said Simplicity USA had recently implemented a "freeze" policy to keep workers on shift an extra two hours if weather conditions demanded it.
But the whistleblower said employees from two overlapping shifts bailed at 10:30 pm instead of staying longer as management demanded.
"They didn`t stay. They just left, we`re talking over 12 probably 15 people," said the worker referring to the number of people he said left early.
He said the reasons varied. "Public transportation at the airport, the last bus leaves at 11:30 pm so if you don`t catch that one there's not really a ride home for you."
The employee also said some of his coworkers worried the two-hour "freeze" would last longer than two hours and were increasingly frustrated by the snowy working conditions.
"We had problems with the equipment getting stuck in the snow constantly because we had no crew to plow any of the jetways or anything. The other airlines like Southwest, when we drive past them they have enclosed vehicles. Frontier doesn`t have a windshield on their vehicles. Most of the time we don`t even have emergency brakes that work."
On Tuesday, Frontier admitted it should have pre-canceled more flights before the storm hit.
The whistleblower says that would've definitely helped since so many delayed airplanes began arriving at DIA at the same time. "Had four planes on the runway at one time, and you had to bounce between every gate trying to flip them as quick as you could ... definitely impossible."
Frontier didn't respond when FOX31 asked why the airline insisted for days no workers walked off the job.
Instead Frontier spokesman Jim Faulkner said it was Simplicity's responsibility to answer that question.
Frontier does acknowledge that it provides the equipment Simplicity workers use but maintains the equipment is adequate. But Faulkner did admit it "doesn't work as well in cold weather."
As for snow plows, Faulkner said Frontier plowed what it could but added, "We had aircraft on the gates so it was hard to clear the entire gate area until aircraft were moved."
Simplicity sent FOX31 the following statement:
"Due to the extreme weather conditions over the weekend, we experienced disruptions to our operations despite the fact that many of our employees worked very long hours in difficult conditions. We deeply regret any inconvenience to Frontier’s customers. We have implemented a review to understand all aspects of what happened including evaluating Frontier's equipment and our own staffing procedures to ensure that we are better prepared in the future to handle severe weather events which exceed what was originally forecast."
DENVER -- A whistleblower says Frontier Airlines is lying when it says no workers walked off the job during Saturday's snowstorm leading to an operational meltdown that left countless passengers and baggage stranded at Denver International Airport this week.
The employee, whose identity FOX31 agreed to protect, works for Simplicity USA, the vendor in charge of ramp and baggage operations for Frontier.
"There was only 12 of us at most that stayed for the evening shift," said the worker referring to Saturday night when DIA received an unexpected eight inches of snow.
The employee said Simplicity USA had recently implemented a "freeze" policy to keep workers on shift an extra two hours if weather conditions demanded it.
But the whistleblower said employees from two overlapping shifts bailed at 10:30 pm instead of staying longer as management demanded.
"They didn`t stay. They just left, we`re talking over 12 probably 15 people," said the worker referring to the number of people he said left early.
He said the reasons varied. "Public transportation at the airport, the last bus leaves at 11:30 pm so if you don`t catch that one there's not really a ride home for you."
The employee also said some of his coworkers worried the two-hour "freeze" would last longer than two hours and were increasingly frustrated by the snowy working conditions.
"We had problems with the equipment getting stuck in the snow constantly because we had no crew to plow any of the jetways or anything. The other airlines like Southwest, when we drive past them they have enclosed vehicles. Frontier doesn`t have a windshield on their vehicles. Most of the time we don`t even have emergency brakes that work."
On Tuesday, Frontier admitted it should have pre-canceled more flights before the storm hit.
The whistleblower says that would've definitely helped since so many delayed airplanes began arriving at DIA at the same time. "Had four planes on the runway at one time, and you had to bounce between every gate trying to flip them as quick as you could ... definitely impossible."
Frontier didn't respond when FOX31 asked why the airline insisted for days no workers walked off the job.
Instead Frontier spokesman Jim Faulkner said it was Simplicity's responsibility to answer that question.
Frontier does acknowledge that it provides the equipment Simplicity workers use but maintains the equipment is adequate. But Faulkner did admit it "doesn't work as well in cold weather."
As for snow plows, Faulkner said Frontier plowed what it could but added, "We had aircraft on the gates so it was hard to clear the entire gate area until aircraft were moved."
Simplicity sent FOX31 the following statement:
"Due to the extreme weather conditions over the weekend, we experienced disruptions to our operations despite the fact that many of our employees worked very long hours in difficult conditions. We deeply regret any inconvenience to Frontier’s customers. We have implemented a review to understand all aspects of what happened including evaluating Frontier's equipment and our own staffing procedures to ensure that we are better prepared in the future to handle severe weather events which exceed what was originally forecast."
12-21-2016, 11:49 PM
#6436
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Joined APC: Jan 2010
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https://www.google.com/amp/kdvr.com/2016/12/21/whistleblower-says-frontier-was-affected-by-walkout/amp/
Simplicity sent FOX31 the following statement:
"Due to the extreme weather conditions over the weekend, we experienced disruptions to our operations despite the fact that many of our employees worked very long hours in difficult conditions. We deeply regret any inconvenience to Frontier’s customers. We have implemented a review to understand all aspects of what happened including evaluating Frontier's equipment and our own staffing procedures to ensure that we are better prepared in the future to handle severe weather events which exceed what was originally forecast."
Simplicity sent FOX31 the following statement:
"Due to the extreme weather conditions over the weekend, we experienced disruptions to our operations despite the fact that many of our employees worked very long hours in difficult conditions. We deeply regret any inconvenience to Frontier’s customers. We have implemented a review to understand all aspects of what happened including evaluating Frontier's equipment and our own staffing procedures to ensure that we are better prepared in the future to handle severe weather events which exceed what was originally forecast."
At what point did 6" of snow in Denver in the month of December become "EXTREME"?
12-22-2016, 04:19 AM
#6437
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 491
Officials at Frontier deny these wild weather phenomena could ever actually occur.
The psychic says it's really outside his wheelhouse, but when pressed, he also predicted that Worker's, when paid sub-standard wages and then expected to perform at high levels in extreme conditions while simultaneously being chronically understaffed and while dealing with poorly-maintained, secondhand equipment MIGHT walk off the job when faced with overly difficult situations and given an opportunity to earn more money at the local 7-Eleven.
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