Missed Appch

Just like Spirit.

madmax757

It was / is horrendous. They would keep delaying flights, then finally cancelling , I was at a Denver gate when they announced a cancellation, near riot. The customer service line was down to the main area by the food court. The police were called to monitor things as they were getting out of hand. Over 7 airplanes with over 3 hour tarmac delay because no gates / because maybe 10 rampers were left - isn't that $27.5 K per passenger fine ? It was Mega cold though and I froze my cajones on a 5 minute preflight. I Felt bery bad for the Rampers. When they did cancel , the pax waited 3-4 hours and never got their luggage. They ordered all flights to leave without bags to open up the gates. My flight left 10 hours late with no bags. No one told the pax though as we walked past them in baggage claim to the hotel van. -

If I were running the show and saw the temps and weather coming - I would have ordered double time for every ramper that showed up , head down there with my pockets filled with $100 s and hand them out -feed everyone etc. it would work and the cost would be minimal compared to the fines and lost customers.

Missed Appch

I personally saw at least two airplanes with air stairs hooked up on a icy ramp due to the tarmac delay program timing out.

ColdWhiskey

It's very hard to stay positive at this place, and I'm generally a glass half full kind of person. This is the 5th or 6th CEO/management team that has been at the helm since I have worked here. Although they are making money, they are just as inept as the ones that preceded them. They repeatedly spend hundreds of thousands to save a few hundred.

They gave away most of our gates on the A concourse and try to run the same operation with a handful of gates. Any little hiccup in the operation results in our airplanes parked on the tarmac for hours waiting for a gate. Who is responsible for this poor decision making? Who is held accountable. Nobody!

BB comes to the airport and throws a few bags on the ramp after he's responsible for breaking the operation. Then he pats himself on the back and puts his picture in the company rags as the hero that came to save the day. Pathetic!

OHPilot213

Well I'm sure glad I had this weekend off ...

NWSteeringArmer

My 8.5 day got canceled while I was on a layover in my own bed... I was at peace but I do feel truly awful for people who paid hard earned money to get treated like this... the email from the mec was humorous to say the least... nothing will happen because there's no accountability... most companies you can walk to the ceos office and say hi... here you need a key card because they're sequestered in their own wing... all I can say is the pictures that Meehan and biffle have of Franke must involve him doing truly unspeakable things

NWSteeringArmer

Your idea is an absolutely excellent one... it lacks two important insights however... 1) it is logical and 2) it lends people to believe that this management teams cares at all about anyone or anything but themselves

DrJekyll MrHyde

Well my prayers have been answered!

From the MEC newsletter:
"This weekend, Frontier Airlines once again fell on its face while attempting to operate a reliable airline."
"While operational errors and mistakes befall every carrier, most management teams implement practices and procedures to prevent reoccurrences. Stated another way, successful companies learn from their mistakes. At Frontier, for more than 3 years now, we have seen a pattern develop in which the Company continues to make the same mistakes, and that has become the new “norm.”

I guess this means I'm renouncing myself from the Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster, praying straight to APC is way more effective!

Joking aside, a sincere thank you to our ALPA MEC.

Aero1900

2 things: typically the DOT fines are way less than the maximum fine, which is the number you mentioned above. It will be interesting to see what fines are really imposed on us.

The idea of paying the ramp staff double time during harsh conditions is a great idea, however they aren't our employees and we don't write their pay checks. Simplicity does. We can't just impose our policies on them. Now, Barry could go out there and hand out cash of course, and clearly he should have, but when you contract out employees, they aren't your employees anymore.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the morning meeting at the GO tomorrow.

G650

Any idea why F9 only has a 50% hire rate. Is this just because they interview more than they are actually hiring, to make it appear as if they don't really need folks?