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12-14-2016, 09:17 PM

#6331

Missed Appch

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Posts: 497

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Originally Posted by skater3260

Do your job. Don't do any favors. Everything else is outside of your control, because the legal system designed it that way.

Ask that disgruntled JetBlue pilot that ran the APU on transcons how that worked out for him. Oh wait, make that ex-JetBlue pilot.

This is all I'm saying (although I came off a little strong after re-reading my posts. Okay, A LOT strong). I certainly don't want to start a internet ****ing match. Nor do I think that running the APU transcon or anything like that is even remotely wise. I just feel like doing things to help them out at this point is asinine. I would think that's pretty far from a work action that could be seen as detrimental to our cause. As was mentioned above, I truly feel our MEC/ALPA is doing a great job as well and have absolutely no intention of doing anything that would hurt them/us.

12-14-2016, 09:53 PM

#6332

BobbyHo

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Posts: 38

So I read that out of training Denver gets lines pretty quickly but mco and ord take about a year of reserve until a line is obtainable? And then upgrades happen in those two bases in 2.5ish years? Anyone shed some light on that? It sounds a little odd from an outsider looking in. Also, I think I saw there are long call reserve lines as well as the 2 hr short call?

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12-14-2016, 10:17 PM

#6333

Mesabi

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Originally Posted by BobbyHo

Denver is a bigger base than ORD and MCO combined. Most of the FO's senior enough to be awarded capt are coming out of denver but have to bid to the other bases to hold capt. So there's more movement on the FO side in den. MCO and ORD fo's are pretty stagnant because neither base is growing much, if at all right now. And even if they have the same percentage of guys upgrading as den (they don't), that's still a lot fewer individuals actually moving.

This will probably begin to even out as they get further into upgrades and the number of guys bypassing dwindles. But as long as Denver is so much bigger, it will always have faster movement.

And upgrade is a lot closer to 3 years than 2 (which hasn't actually happened) or 2.5 for most guys and gals.

12-15-2016, 09:08 AM

#6334

NWSteeringArmer

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Position: CRJ-200 CA

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Originally Posted by Missed Appch

My god the lines sucked next month. I sincerely hope that there is a record number of sick calls in January.

Why would anyone call in sick when you can win not one but TWO POSITIVE SPACE ROUND TRIP TICKETS ON AMERICA'S PREMIER ULTRA LOW COST CARRIER?!?! And you give me a 1/1000 shot of winning $2000, a trip to Cancun or a brand new, shiny iPad, you can bet your a$$ I'm coming to work with a 110 degree fever and anal leakage

12-15-2016, 09:32 AM

#6335

SeaRider

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Originally Posted by NWSteeringArmer

Not to mention that the "fine print" with the positive space tickets basically makes it a space available non-rev pass.

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12-15-2016, 09:40 AM

#6336

AncientAliens

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Originally Posted by NWSteeringArmer

Flown with a bunch of sick FAs lately who had to come to work so they didn't get fired. I hope everyone coming here realizes that's the kind of company they will be working for.

12-15-2016, 09:49 AM

#6337

Yetifan

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Posts: 83

Quote:

Originally Posted by AncientAliens

Flown with a bunch of sick FAs lately who had to come to work so they didn't get fired. I hope everyone coming here realizes that's the kind of company they will be working for.

It baffles me people still want to come to this place. It's like they haven't read this forum or talked to an actual Frontier pilot who doesn't have his head up his own ass... There's a reason why attrition is so high and a training contact is being forced on new hires.

12-15-2016, 10:08 AM

#6338

SFA320

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yetifan

How high is attrition on the pilot side? It doesn't seem like to many leave.

12-15-2016, 11:24 AM

#6339

PulledBreaker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SFA320

How high is attrition on the pilot side? It doesn't seem like to many leave.

It's been about 5 per month. That's less than a 6% annual turnover rate. Lower than just about every other industry.

12-15-2016, 02:34 PM

#6340

TurboFanMan

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Posts: 609

Quote:

Originally Posted by PulledBreaker

It's been about 5 per month. That's less than a 6% annual turnover rate. Lower than just about every other industry.

I agree, I'm not seeing a high attrition rate? 60 guys a year is nothing. I've looked at the present and past list, I'm not seeing it?
You may here people saying their leaving, but their still here according to the list trend. Looks like half those were retirements.