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Old 12-14-2016, 04:24 PM
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It's called pride. When people are doing everything they possibly can to screw you over, I'll be damned if I'm going to do one thing to help them out. You Kool-aid drinkers keep doing your thing. Indigo appreciates it.
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Old 12-14-2016, 04:37 PM
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Soooo......
when the ramper walks right thru the "safety zone" in front of engine #1 while you are waiting for the ground power to be hooked up....and their hat/vest/phone/lanyard/or god forbid body, gets injested who's ass (PIC) is going to be held to the fire?
Seen it.....complained about it......still happens
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Old 12-14-2016, 05:51 PM
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I'm 2000TT 500 at a regional and 700 corporate turbine experience, and a Masters degree. Am I a competive applicant here? And if not what do I need to be one...

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Old 12-14-2016, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Missed Appch
It's called pride. When people are doing everything they possibly can to screw you over, I'll be damned if I'm going to do one thing to help them out. You Kool-aid drinkers keep doing your thing. Indigo appreciates it.
It has nothing to do with the "Kool Aid." Trust the process, I personally think our union is doing a great job. Self imploding during mediation would ruin everything for us. Be a professional, take pride in doing your job to the best of your ability. Everything else will take care of itself. Being miserable does nothing, except make things hard for everybody else around you.
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by waker92
I'm 2000TT 500 at a regional and 700 corporate turbine experience, and a Masters degree. Am I a competive applicant here? And if not what do I need to be one...

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As long as you meet the minimums you are competitive.
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Missed Appch
It's called pride. When people are doing everything they possibly can to screw you over, I'll be damned if I'm going to do one thing to help them out. You Kool-aid drinkers keep doing your thing. Indigo appreciates it.
I guess I have a different view.

There is a bona fide way/manner in which to make changes. It is simply a matter of time. Which way will be quicker - the squeaky wheel (whine/disobey/waste $) approach or the "do the same as you always have been" approach. Who knows?

The one thing I do know is that I don't lower my standards or level of behavoir because Indigo lowers theres'. I fly the same whether I'm in a Cessna making $30 / hr or in an Airbus making 5 times that. That is how I show my pride. It's not like everyone in the industry doesn't already know we're the lowest paid...I'm not gonna stop all the other pilots I see walking by and say "Yeah, but I don't single engine taxi though."

I've realized that we make the least through no fault of our own and its really because of circumstances beyond our control. Indigo bought us - plain and simple. Now we work with them to get more or hope they sell. I doubt running the APU longer just because will affect either positively (if you have an OPERATIONAL or SAFETY reason to do so, then of course.) As mentioned, we're in the process. Let it work.

Furthermore, I can't believe anyone is really complaining about what others are doing inside their cockpit...
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:45 PM
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Well said dracir1.
It's called integrity. Doing the next right thing even in the face of adversity. Nothing you do from the flight deck will have any effect on Indigo or the negotiation process. So why bother? Fly the line, do your job to the best of your ability and let the process run its course. We all pay our 1.9% to let the union handle the contract. That's their job. Do your job and forget the stuff you can't control. You'll live a happier life.
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:51 PM
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Do your job. Don't do any favors. Everything else is outside of your control, because the legal system designed it that way.

Ask that disgruntled JetBlue pilot that ran the APU on transcons how that worked out for him. Oh wait, make that ex-JetBlue pilot.
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
The one thing I do know is that I don't lower my standards or level of behavoir because Indigo lowers theres'. I fly the same whether I'm in a Cessna making $30 / hr or in an Airbus making 5 times that.
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That's called being a professional.

Contact negotiations can be trying times.
Everyone must remain professional, fly the contract and follow company procedures.
Exactly what our union is asking us to do.
Anything else and your risking our position at the negotiating table.
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenix 23684
No, This pilot group needs to continue following our union guidance which is to continue working as normal. please don't instigate anything here. We are following a process.
The quote above is spot on! People are ****ed and I get it. But doing anything out of the ordinary is NOT going to get us any closer to a contract. Do not follow the "Grow a pair antics." Do your job and nothing more. Our day will be coming on a new contract.
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