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Old 11-25-2016, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sulkair
Plus, something else to consider, hiring virtually stopped after 2007. There are ~15 pilots that represent the entire 5 year span of (2008,2009,2010,2011,2012). And even in 2013 hiring didn't start until late in the year. So there will come a day when Denver upgrade is sitting at X years, and in about a 2 month period - BAM it will go from X to X-5 years.
Indeed. And, AIUI, all of those 2013 hires have had their chance to upgrade, if willing to be junior in MCO--I think the "line" will snap up as you say, but I think it will likely snap further than many expect because of this factor.

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Old 11-25-2016, 02:52 PM
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[QUOTE=sab1250;2249804]Most junior DEN CA in latest award was a 1/29/07 hire, just under 10 years. Also if we open another west coast base in the next couple of years, DEN upgrade time will go down DRAMATICALLY.

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Old 11-25-2016, 04:22 PM
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May bad then trowser. I just think and of course it's opinion that we will see 5 year or less upgrades in DEN in the next few years. I'm a terrible judge of when people are being serious on here...or in texts. My bad. I think people tend to get a little hyperbolic on here, and I try to paint a real picture for outsiders looking in.
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Old 11-25-2016, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sab1250
May bad then trowser. I just think and of course it's opinion that we will see 5 year or less upgrades in DEN in the next few years. I'm a terrible judge of when people are being serious on here...or in texts. My bad. I think people tend to get a little hyperbolic on here, and I try to paint a real picture for outsiders looking in.
I think your right.
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Old 11-25-2016, 09:01 PM
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Hey guys, Iv looked back about 15 pages no luck finding what Im looking for. I also used the search function to no success.
Im just curious what ORD is like for a newhire? Possible out of training? Time on RSV? Any short call RSV? (I see you have long and medium call, perfect for me so I can drive to work). Im considering leaving the regional I am at, in favor of going to an LCC. Just curious what the first few years as an FO would be like at F9. For what its worth, I dont have 121 PIC time, but could upgrade soon if I wanted. Not sure if I should stick around where im at for that or not.
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Old 11-26-2016, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GrassLandings
Hey guys, Iv looked back about 15 pages no luck finding what Im looking for. I also used the search function to no success.
Im just curious what ORD is like for a newhire? Possible out of training? Time on RSV? Any short call RSV? (I see you have long and medium call, perfect for me so I can drive to work). Im considering leaving the regional I am at, in favor of going to an LCC. Just curious what the first few years as an FO would be like at F9. For what its worth, I dont have 121 PIC time, but could upgrade soon if I wanted. Not sure if I should stick around where im at for that or not.
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Hi GrassLandings, ORD is pretty stagnant. Though they just opened up about 14-15 slots for Feb 2017. Out of training? It all depends where they need bodies at that moment in time. The base is roughly 100 pilots on each side. Looking through the numbers a bit (as especially in DEC some people bid reserve when they could hold a line or relief) I would say the last clean line went to a 8/15 hire and relief lines were held at about an 11/15 hire. For simplicity, say reserve is about a year right now in ORD. And consider the most Junior Captain in MCO is less than 2 1/2 years.

Don't fly much on reserve right now. For me, I average about 4 days a month of flying. Today is 11/26 and the reserve person on call today with the most hours is under 34 hours for the month. Picking up trips on the aggressive in ORD is tough as there just aren't many to pick up. The majority of times scheduling has called me (rather than me picking up aggressive) it has been for a two hour call out. Long and medium calls tend to go a bit senior... even into the lineholder seniority levels.

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Old 11-26-2016, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by LakeshoreFlyer
Hi GrassLandings, ORD is pretty stagnant. Though they just opened up about 14-15 slots for Feb 2017. Out of training? It all depends where they need bodies at that moment in time. The base is roughly 100 pilots on each side. Looking through the numbers a bit (as especially in DEC some people bid reserve when they could hold a line or relief) I would say the last clean line went to a 8/15 hire and relief lines were held at about an 11/15 hire. For simplicity, say reserve is about a year right now in ORD. And consider the most Junior Captain in MCO is less than 2 1/2 years.

Don't fly much on reserve right now. For me, I average about 4 days a month of flying. Today is 11/26 and the reserve person on call today with the most hours is under 34 hours for the month. Picking up trips on the aggressive in ORD is tough as there just aren't many to pick up. The majority of times scheduling has called me (rather than me picking up aggressive) it has been for a two hour call out. Long and medium calls tend to go a bit senior... even into the lineholder seniority levels.

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Thanks for all the info Lakeshore, much appreciated.
I forgot to ask, does F9 do ready reserve/airport ready? If so how many times a month can they convert you from normal rsv short call to airport standby?
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Old 11-26-2016, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by GrassLandings
Thanks for all the info Lakeshore, much appreciated.
I forgot to ask, does F9 do ready reserve/airport ready? If so how many times a month can they convert you from normal rsv short call to airport standby?
F9 does not have airport or ready reserve.
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Old 11-26-2016, 07:40 AM
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Also on reserve in ORD, haven't flown yet this month.
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Old 11-26-2016, 10:34 AM
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Hope this helps. Did a look back for most junior awards for ORD Hard Line and Relief Lines:

DEC
HL 1/16
RL 2/16

NOV
HL 11/15
RL 2/16

OCT
HL 12/15
RL 2/16

RSV in ORD and MCO is pretty chill. No small farm animal treatment here.
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