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Old 10-12-2016, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax757
Here's an article I found online. Looks like it confirms that we will hire 300 pilots and 800 FA's in 2017. 72 Airframes by end of 17.

Frontier Airlines hiring 200 workers in Denver, 1,100 nationwide ? The Denver Post
Our retirements are increasing? From what, 3 to 5 a year?
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I want to say thanks to the Frontier pilot that came out and stood shoulder to shoulder with us at Spirit in DFW yesterday.
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Old 10-12-2016, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by skater3260
Our retirements are increasing? From what, 3 to 5 a year?
8 in September. Not necessarily "retirements" but attrition.

The FAA Diamond awards were given to each mechanic. They were sort of a continuing education program. All the mechanics did the requisite paperwork for years. That piece of flare dropped off during the bankruptcy.
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:04 PM
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Straight,

Yes 1-3 legs usually. Less often 4. I think I've done 5 maybe once. Schedules compared to Legacies: Might be similar except we fly a lot of redeyes. Our trips aren't usually too efficient. I suppose 10 hour 2 days, 15 hour 3 days, or 20 hour 4 days are considered pretty good around here these days, and they get a lot uglier than that. Course we got a TAFB / 3.75 rig if that floats ur boat. The pre ULCC Frontier had way better efficiency. I've heard lots of guys say they flew 3 on 4 off for years, now they fly 4 on 3 off. Benefits compared to legacies??? BWAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!

This thread was started right as the rumors of Indigo purchasing Frontier began.

If you scan/browse/read it, or at least go back a year and a half or so and start there, you will learn everything you want to know about Frontier. I only tell you this because you seem truly interested in knowing details.

I know it's a lot to go through, but in my opinion it will give you a dang comprehensive understanding of this place, and what to expect, as well as the challenges we now face.

Or Bolo can just spoon feed it to you ...Kidding Bolo!
Thanks for the info. I started reading from the beginning a few days ago and got weary after a few dozen pages, lol.
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax757
Here's an article I found online. Looks like it confirms that we will hire 300 pilots and 800 FA's in 2017. 72 Airframes by end of 17.

Frontier Airlines hiring 200 workers in Denver, 1,100 nationwide ? The Denver Post
I think I'll start tracking the hiring projection estimates. It seems like we keep hearing of 20+ per month hiring, but then a month or two later we skip a few months' worth of classes and then we run a class of a dozen or so, etc.

I have some historical seniority lists downloaded at different times this year. I realize this method of counting won't account for attrition, but here's what's showing for the 2016 calendar year:

January -- 22 (-2)
February -- 19 (0)
March -- 16 (-2)
April -- 15 (0)
May -- 6 (-1)
June -- 17 (-1)
July -- 0 (x)
August -- 17 (n/a)
September -- 20 (n/a)

Total through September 132 pilots
Average of 14.67 per month
On track for 176 this year based on the average so far

The ( -xx) next to each month's number is how many people are missing from that class as of the October 1, 2016 seniority list.

Does anyone remember what the company projected for 2016 hiring?

I'll readily admit that this isn't scientific and it might not even be 100% accurate. I'm too lazy to go find a pair of reader glasses and my vision is a bit fuzzy this time of day so I may have mis-counted along the way. Sucks to get old.

Edit to add retirements…

So far we've had 6 people retire due to age this year. We'll have one more before the end of 2016.

2017 is showing a total of 9 age retirements on the books. 2 of the 9 scheduled to retire are currently on some sort of leave of absence.

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I remember the recruiters talking up 250 hires for 2016 for quite a while.
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How long have people been waiting from application submission until they're notified for an interview?

And how long till class start?
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Originally Posted by flynavyj
How long have people been waiting from application submission until they're notified for an interview?

And how long till class start?
I think the process moves along rather quickly.
Once you submit your stuff I believe they notify you within a week or two if your qualified.
Seems they give folks about 2 weeks to prepare for interview.
They tell you the same day of the interview if your hired or not.
Then class is usually 1-2 months out.
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Old 10-13-2016, 07:38 AM
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Last year I got a call for interview 2 days prior. Offered a choice of start 2 or 6 weeks away. Depends on their requirements at the time.
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Originally Posted by skater3260
I remember the recruiters talking up 250 hires for 2016 for quite a while.
I was thinking it was 200. Either way it seems we hired less than their projections. So now they are saying they want to hire 300 between now and the end of 2017, so I guess they mean over the next 14 months. That's about 20-22/ month average. I did hear they wanted to run some classes of 28 in early 2017. They probably plan on a slow down during the summer again, giving an average of 20/ month.

I think the number of retirements is virtually negligible (not even 1/ month average), what probably won't be is attrition of FOs to the legacies. That's probably really what they meant, FOs "retiring" to go fly at United

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