NWSteeringArmer

I've said this before... We'll never see a contract from this management team... Anyone who thinks frontier is going to have fun animals on the tail in three years is not seeing the bigger picture... Soon enough you'll all be ****ing and moaning that you got screwed on the SLI... Meanwhile, nides, biffle, franke and meehan are laughing their asses off reading this...

And carrying a stroller up the jet bridge isn't selling out... It's not the customers fault this management team is a bunch of selfish, self involved, greedy pigs... You should do the best job you can because you have pride in yourself

Yabadaba

We have had the same contract for years and nothing has changed. I trust the negotiators to do their job but it will take time and probably a picket sign. Indigo could care less about what everyone gave up to save the company. Maybe that's why some feel insulted because they are just now realizing this. It will only strengthen our unity for future because the we are all now on the same page.

Tank top, non formula fed kid.... I was weak.

FlipTheDolphin

Says the 30 year old virgin.

phoenix 23684

I would have helped the mom as well. There's a huge different about not helping the company out and another about helping a person in need. We are human after all.

I'm behind the MEC, I'm just saddened about how this company is changing for the worse, this should be a place for people to hang their hat.

SpankysLadder

Ok guys and gals, stop doing things beyond the scope of your job. If you're injured or you injure someone else while performing duties outside the scope of your job description/training you will have no protection from the company nor the union and will probably forfeit any right to Workers Comp as well as any Disability benefits.

Not sure how I can be any clearer than that but please don't put yourself at risk.

DENpilot

I do, but tell me where it says my job is carrying strollers?

The problem lies with guys who want to solve the company's problems. It sucks it takes 20 minutes to get a stroller brought up, but why in the hell would management attempt to solve that problem when we solve it for them for FREE!

MooseJaw

Very offensive offer

F9 Driver

^^^^^^^^^
THIS

And from Phoenix - "I would have helped the mom as well. There's a huge different about not helping the company out and another about helping a person in need. We are human after all"
^^^^^
This is where we get into the debate about where the cycle begins and ends.

The "person in need" bought the lowest cost POS tickets she could, but, if you keep making the product look better than it really can be for the money spent by the customer, the company has NO reason to change, and you just got another responsibility added to the expectation of a pilot's job - FOR FREE.

The passengers jump at the lowest cost and management jumps at the biggest pile of money. If the passenger can get the same experience for $35 as they can for $45 they will, but guess who gets to use the $10 to compete with OALs and pad their bank accounts? If the passengers have to wait 10 minutes in a hot jetway for car seats maybe they'll look at the cost of saving $10 and book away next time.

The only thing management understands or cares about is money.

ColdWhiskey

Hey F9Driver, I would like to hear your thoughts on Management's opening proposal that we have recently received. Is this a typical opening proposal from management as you have seen and witnessed at Frontier previously, or you have knowledge of from other airlines and their initial management proposals?

For me, I don't recall ever hearing of such a radical, concessionary, and insulting first proposal, even during the worst of times.

Trowserchilli

Really?

It's nothing unusual. Spirit went on strike with the same management team. That should tell you everything.

Google the Alpa scab list and look down the center lane at the number of airlines having struck. That'll make you feel better knowing your not alone when Frontier strikes.

People need to stop being "insulted". Anyone here ever try to buy something and make a low ball offer? It's no different. Don't get upset, just say no, that's not going to work. Then we just keep saying that until it does work.