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09-01-2016, 02:27 PM

#5301

SeaRider

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Originally Posted by 7ecaguy

I was told for my interview it was a 2 year upgrade. Sounds a little too good to be true. Starting pay is pretty low, hopefully a new TA comes soon. Thanks

Yeah, I don't why they're still telling people that. I'll hit the 2-year mark in a few months and am nowhere near upgrade.

09-01-2016, 03:00 PM

#5302

Yabadaba

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Originally Posted by motorboatin

Have one interaction with him and I will promise you'll feel differently. The guy is a douche. Deny any possible quarrel now and encourage a grievance....he's a mgmt dream. Bobbing for apples at the state fair and we came up with an ASS CP.

Had 2 interactions with him and couldn't disagree more. Was decent and fair. Of course past performance is not a guarantee of future results...

09-01-2016, 03:06 PM

#5303

Aero1900

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Position: 1900D CA

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Originally Posted by 7ecaguy

I was told for my interview it was a 2 year upgrade. Sounds a little too good to be true. Starting pay is pretty low, hopefully a new TA comes soon. Thanks

That does sound a bit too good to be true. We did have a small batch of guys upgrade right about the 2 year mark, but then we stopped running upgrades for a while. Maybe 5 or 6 months. It looks like upgrade classes are starting up again, and with 80+ airplanes coming in 5 years, I expect the upgrade classes to keep going.

We currently have 57 airplanes and 1000 pilots (roughly). The fleet plan is for 120 airplanes and about 2000 pilots. I believe the currently most junior captain is about 650-675 on the seniority list. Predicting upgrades times is really hard if things don't change and they go exactly as planned. My guess is if you were hired today, you could upgrade in 3.5 years. Or approximately the time we get a new contract

09-01-2016, 03:11 PM

#5304

FlynDive

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Originally Posted by SeaRider

Yeah, I don't why they're still telling people that. I'll hit the 2-year mark in a few months and am nowhere near upgrade.

Just curious... what IS ur guesstimate of potential upgrade time? "Nowhere near" = months? years?? Considering options IF I get an interview & ORD domicle. Thanks.

09-01-2016, 03:14 PM

#5305

FlynDive

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Thanks for the info Aero... didn't see ur post until after I posted the question.
Thanks again.

09-01-2016, 03:25 PM

#5306

Aero1900

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Originally Posted by FlynDive

Just curious... what IS ur guesstimate of potential upgrade time? "Nowhere near" = months? years?? Considering options IF I get an interview & ORD domicle. Thanks.

The ord domicile should be easy to get

09-01-2016, 03:52 PM

#5307

ColdWhiskey

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Originally Posted by shreddykreuger

+1000

I hope our NC adjusts their ask appropriately since "current economic conditions" have changed

Exactly! Our 'ask' needs to be based on an industry average of our peers. If our management insists on dragging this out as long as possible, our 'ask' needs to be moving up, as the industry average is moving up each time another pilot group inks a contract.

The longer our management group drags this out, the more it should cost them.

09-01-2016, 04:27 PM

#5308

phoenix 23684

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Originally Posted by 7ecaguy

I was told for my interview it was a 2 year upgrade. Sounds a little too good to be true. Starting pay is pretty low, hopefully a new TA comes soon. Thanks

Not even close, only the 2013 hires saw that. I'm a 2014 hire and I'm at 2.5 years and not on the next vacancy bid, maybe the following or who knows. It depends how many people keep bypassing. Delta has 2 year upgrades.