Frontier Hiring.
06-10-2016, 05:14 AM
#4741
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"We'd like to provide an update on growth and hiring for the short and mid-term. For those of you who have sent in an SB or recommendation recently, your candidate may not have been called yet. That is due to the postponement of classes over most of the summer months. We will still run a class of 16 candidates in June. After that, the next class is scheduled for September and every month through the end of the year, with between 22 to 30 pilots in each class. We anticipate inter-viewing in July for the September class. For 2017, Frontier is currently on track to hire almost 270 new pilots and an anticipated 230 in 2018. By 2022, we expect to have almost 2000 pilots on property and about 120 aircraft."
The latest from management.
The latest from management.
06-10-2016, 05:49 AM
#4742
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"We'd like to provide an update on growth and hiring for the short and mid-term. For those of you who have sent in an SB or recommendation recently, your candidate may not have been called yet. That is due to the postponement of classes over most of the summer months. We will still run a class of 16 candidates in June. After that, the next class is scheduled for September and every month through the end of the year, with between 22 to 30 pilots in each class. We anticipate inter-viewing in July for the September class. For 2017, Frontier is currently on track to hire almost 270 new pilots and an anticipated 230 in 2018. By 2022, we expect to have almost 2000 pilots on property and about 120 aircraft."
The latest from management.
The latest from management.
The 6/1 Seniority List shows the most junior Captain at about 600 out of 995 on the master seniority list (ORD based Capt). I don't have attrition numbers, but expect an increasing outflow as Indigo plays their games throughout negotiations. With this young of a group you'll see very few retirements.
If the projections are close over the next 2 years my guess is that we'll be at nearly 1400 pilots by the end of 2018, and the most junior Captain will be around 800 on the list. So, if the growth happens and it's linear, today's new hire is looking at about 4 years until upgrade.
4 years isn't exactly slow, but it's twice as long as I've heard is being advertised to prospective hires, your mileage may vary, and a LOT can happen in 4 years but that's my public math for the moment.
06-10-2016, 09:24 AM
#4743
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Frontier was just approved by the DOT to fly to Cuba.
I cannot find a list of cities to be served. Interestingly, American got approval but not United or Delta.
Here's hoping for a Havana overnight!
I cannot find a list of cities to be served. Interestingly, American got approval but not United or Delta.
Here's hoping for a Havana overnight!
06-10-2016, 09:31 AM
#4744
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The U.S. cities with flights to Cuba will be Miami; Fort Lauderdale, Florida; Chicago; Philadelphia and Minneapolis, according to DOT. The airlines are: American Airlines Group Inc., Frontier Airlines Holdings Inc., JetBlue Airways Corp., Silver Airways Corp., Southwest Airlines Co., and Sun Country Airlines Inc.
They will fly to nine Cuban cities, not including Havana. The DOT is still determining which carriers will be allowed to fly to the Cuban capital.
As I looked further, I see that they have not given routes to Havana yet. United and Delta will likely get approved for those later.
They will fly to nine Cuban cities, not including Havana. The DOT is still determining which carriers will be allowed to fly to the Cuban capital.
As I looked further, I see that they have not given routes to Havana yet. United and Delta will likely get approved for those later.
06-10-2016, 02:25 PM
#4746
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"Frontier daily between Chicago O'Hare and Santiago de Cuba beginning Oct. 27, four times weekly on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays between Philadelphia and Camaguey beginning Dec. 15; three times weekly on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays between Philadelphia and Santa Clara beginning Dec. 15; and weekly flights on Saturdays between O'Hare and Philadelphia and Varadero starting Jan. 7, 2017. The flights will be on Airbus A320 or A320neo aircraft."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/06/10/united-states-airlines-scheduled-flights-cuba/85693838/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/06/10/united-states-airlines-scheduled-flights-cuba/85693838/
06-10-2016, 03:54 PM
#4747
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06-10-2016, 06:19 PM
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Quick math for those thinking that there is still a quick upgrade to be had.
The 6/1 Seniority List shows the most junior Captain at about 600 out of 995 on the master seniority list (ORD based Capt). I don't have attrition numbers, but expect an increasing outflow as Indigo plays their games throughout negotiations. With this young of a group you'll see very few retirements.
If the projections are close over the next 2 years my guess is that we'll be at nearly 1400 pilots by the end of 2018, and the most junior Captain will be around 800 on the list. So, if the growth happens and it's linear, today's new hire is looking at about 4 years until upgrade.
4 years isn't exactly slow, but it's twice as long as I've heard is being advertised to prospective hires, your mileage may vary, and a LOT can happen in 4 years but that's my public math for the moment.
The 6/1 Seniority List shows the most junior Captain at about 600 out of 995 on the master seniority list (ORD based Capt). I don't have attrition numbers, but expect an increasing outflow as Indigo plays their games throughout negotiations. With this young of a group you'll see very few retirements.
If the projections are close over the next 2 years my guess is that we'll be at nearly 1400 pilots by the end of 2018, and the most junior Captain will be around 800 on the list. So, if the growth happens and it's linear, today's new hire is looking at about 4 years until upgrade.
4 years isn't exactly slow, but it's twice as long as I've heard is being advertised to prospective hires, your mileage may vary, and a LOT can happen in 4 years but that's my public math for the moment.
Cuba will be turns, no overnights. Good showing for Frontier though!
And here's my prediction for the next base...PHL
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