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Old 04-27-2016, 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by phoenix 23684
I have been here a little over two years. I'm willing to bet a lot of us came here hoping F9 would be a great place to be, but more importantly F9 called and the legacies have not. F9 has great potential, but in my short 2 years I have seen the opposite take place. This management is set on making this place into a regional operated business with Airbus. I'm still cheering for F9 to become a great place and I would like to see a more unified pilot group. That being said, if DAL/UAL/AA call, I wouldn't hesitate to leave.
+1, well said phoenix 23684. As a small side note, the hotels we stay at here are the worst quality and most disappointing of any company I've ever been at overall. Great pilot group though!

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Old 04-27-2016, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I've been at frontier for 2 years. This month, I used 7 days of vacation and ended up with a 25 day off month and 84 hours of credit. I'm currently in the middle of a 14 day vacation with my family. The pay here needs to go up, and it will. The quality of life here is just fine.

When making a career decision, look at the big picture. Frontier is going to be the fastest growing airline in the country for the next 5 years. Our contract is currently being negotiated and we might get a small pay raise before our next contract is signed. Careers are long, contacts are short. Don't confuse today's contract with what the future will hold.

Ok, now let the b*tching continue...

And don't confuse the kool-aid management is serving you with the blue juice from the lav.

Are you an assistant chief pilot, yet?
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Old 04-27-2016, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by phoenix 23684
I have been here a little over two years. I'm willing to bet a lot of us came here hoping F9 would be a great place to be, but more importantly F9 called and the legacies have not. F9 has great potential, but in my short 2 years I have seen the opposite take place. This management is set on making this place into a regional operated business with Airbus. I'm still cheering for F9 to become a great place and I would like to see a more unified pilot group. That being said, if DAL/UAL/AA call, I wouldn't hesitate to leave.
I imagine the calls will start coming. I bet anyone with a desire to work for Big3 who possesses even moderately competitive stats will get their shot at an interview in the near future.

My only concern is the economic cycles, and how they play into the equation with regard to furloughs etc. For this reason, I suppose a person's age factors highly into a decision to shed the (i will not call them golden) hand-cuffs and take a number at the bottom of a legacy.

Tricky stuff.
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Old 04-27-2016, 09:06 AM
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Any rumors as to when the IPO is coming?

I'm sure shortly thereafter we will merge with you guys and be the Ultra ****bag LowCost carriers and have to wait another 4-5 year for a ****ty contract
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Old 04-27-2016, 03:23 PM
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Any rumors as to when the IPO is coming?

I'm sure shortly thereafter we will merge with you guys and be the Ultra ****bag LowCost carriers and have to wait another 4-5 year for a ****ty contract
Any company will never offer an IPO while there are major labor contract disputes.
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Old 04-27-2016, 03:35 PM
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Any company will never offer an IPO while there are major labor contract disputes.
I don't think Franke gives a flying F----- about that. When is your contract amendable ?
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Old 04-27-2016, 03:49 PM
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I don't think Franke gives a flying F----- about that. When is your contract amendable ?
Just a bit over 10 months from now.
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Old 04-27-2016, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
And don't confuse the kool-aid management is serving you with the blue juice from the lav.

Are you an assistant chief pilot, yet?
The Kool Aid is not coming from management, it's coming from the union! Management said "don't expect Southwest pay" and the union said our senior captain's will make $230/hour and the new contract will be signed by the first quarter of 2017.

And no, they haven't approached me about the assistant chief job yet...

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Old 04-27-2016, 04:12 PM
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the union said our senior captain's will make $230/hour
The union said this, huh? And in what correspondence with the pilot group was that figure given? Because I'm certain they won't allow any of our financial goals to be released while in negotiations.

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and the new contract will be signed by the first quarter of 2017.
They didn't say it would be done that quick, only that it COULD be done that quick if management negotiated in good faith. Just more fantasy land wishful thinking nonsense.
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Old 04-27-2016, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Barley
The union said this, huh? And in what correspondence with the pilot group was that figure given? Because I'm certain they won't allow any of our financial goals to be released while in negotiations.



They didn't say it would be done that quick, only that it COULD be done that quick if management negotiated in good faith. Just more fantasy land wishful thinking nonsense.
Word of mouth contract goal...

And in regard to fantasy land wishful thinking.... my point exactly... the company is not the one giving out the Kool aid

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