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Old 03-13-2016, 10:20 AM
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16 new-hires for March seems a bit on the small side. Plans to have bigger classes?
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Old 03-13-2016, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sulkair
16 new-hires for March seems a bit on the small side. Plans to have bigger classes?
16 March, 16 April. Usual 24ish per month after that.
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Old 03-13-2016, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by etflies
For a year, perhaps. Let's compare second year pay and beyond. How about long term stability? We just opened negotiations as well, and it can only improve from where we are now. Your comment is awful short sighted.
Well said. 12 of the 16 guys in my training class are former regional guys. 5 of them were even captains with around 10 years experience. All sharp guys.
When I first stared flying at my former regional I remember talking to guys passing on AA because their first year pay was 36 a hour, they chose not to flow and stay at their regional. Fast forward about 18 months, and they were all regretting it. Frontier pilots couldn't do anything about the pay scales, hotel situation during training etc. because of the BANKRUPTCY contract. As mentioned before negotiations have now started and will most likely change that. If anybody is on the fence about F9, I would humbly suggest get in now. It would be prudent to accrue seniority and then reap the benefits of a new contract. As opposed to wait for the new contract and then apply. Just my two cents.
Or if one is happy at their regional, by all means stay there and hope for the best.

PS. Don't pay for a hotel during training. There are multiple crash pads within 5 miles of the training center starting at 200 per month.
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Old 03-13-2016, 12:02 PM
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Well said. 12 of the 16 guys in my training class are former regional guys. 5 of them were even captains with around 10 years experience. All sharp guys.
When I first stared flying at my former regional I remember talking to guys passing on AA because their first year pay was 36 a hour, they chose not to flow and stay at their regional. Fast forward about 18 months, and they were all regretting it. Frontier pilots couldn't do anything about the pay scales, hotel situation during training etc. because of the BANKRUPTCY contract. As mentioned before negotiations have now started and will most likely change that. If anybody is on the fence about F9, I would humbly suggest get in now. It would be prudent to occur senority and then reap the benefits of a new contract. As opposed to wait for the new contract and then apply. Just my two cents.
Or if one is happy at their regional, by all means stay there and hope for the best.

PS. Don't pay for a hotel during training. There are multiple crash pads within 5 miles of the training center starting at 200 per month.
Thanks for the info about your class. Any other info on breakdown of backgrounds in the class? Age, military, times, etc...Appears like they only hire a few out of each interview round.
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Old 03-13-2016, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by The Revenge
Thanks for the info about your class. Any other info on breakdown of backgrounds in the class? Age, military, times, etc...Appears like they only hire a few out of each interview round.
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I was in a fall class, and there was no similarities in background. Military, Regional, Foriegn, 135, and Corporate.
As long as you meet the mins you are competetive. The only recurring theme is we all wanted to be there. Sell your personality in the interview and your chances are as good as anyone elses. They aren't hiring a logbook. Sorry if that's blunt but there was a few candidates that seemed to think they were well qualified for F9 and they didn't make it until the end of the day.
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Old 03-13-2016, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Yabadaba
I was in a fall class, and there was no similarities in background. Military, Regional, Foriegn, 135, and Corporate.
As long as you meet the mins you are competetive. The only recurring theme is we all wanted to be there. Sell your personality in the interview and your chances are as good as anyone elses. They aren't hiring a logbook. Sorry if that's blunt but there was a few candidates that seemed to think they were well qualified for F9 and they didn't make it until the end of the day.
I agree 100%. Sums up my class perfectly.
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Old 03-13-2016, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by etflies
For a year, perhaps. Let's compare second year pay and beyond. How about long term stability? We just opened negotiations as well, and it can only improve from where we are now. Your comment is awful short sighted.
Well if people stopped applying to places with such crappy pay, that pay would go up. Wishful thinking.
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Old 03-13-2016, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FireFlyChi
16 March, 16 April. Usual 24ish per month after that.
Thanks for the answer FireFlyChi.
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Old 03-13-2016, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Why do people even bother going there? can make more at some regionals these days and they pay for housing.
Really? That's funny, I thought $160/hr > $100/hr. My bad. Never mind the upward potential comparatively. 😜
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Old 03-13-2016, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Well if people stopped applying to places with such crappy pay, that pay would go up. Wishful thinking.
So you never flew for a regional, right? Because you would never contribute to the low paying regionals ($20-40/hr). And you never instructed for $15-20. If everyone just followed your lead and stopped applying at the regionals, their pay would be stupendous! Good man!
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