Frontier Hiring.
03-04-2016, 09:06 AM
#4185
Banned
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: doggy style
Posts: 1,006
For anyone who is curious about the schedules, let me remind them that these folks saying they're "bad", are saying so in a relative sense. The truth is Frontier is no longer a Denver-centric airline and the schedules reflect that.
Keeping in mind that April is a 30 day bid month, our schedules are pretty decent. System wide days off averages 15 days off. Denver bid packs only contain three 12 day off lines, eight 13 day off lines, sixty-six 14 day off lines. Basically if you bid in the top 60%, you are guaranteed at least half the month off. ORD is even better with NO 12 day lines and a couple 13 day lines. The top 80% line holders will have 15+ days off. It seems to me our overnights are better next month too, lots of long Punta Cana and Cancun, some 30 hour Portland and Seattle overnights.
I won't ever defend the pay here, it is atrocious. Schedules tho, are not much of a legit gripe unless you've been here for 5+ years.
Keeping in mind that April is a 30 day bid month, our schedules are pretty decent. System wide days off averages 15 days off. Denver bid packs only contain three 12 day off lines, eight 13 day off lines, sixty-six 14 day off lines. Basically if you bid in the top 60%, you are guaranteed at least half the month off. ORD is even better with NO 12 day lines and a couple 13 day lines. The top 80% line holders will have 15+ days off. It seems to me our overnights are better next month too, lots of long Punta Cana and Cancun, some 30 hour Portland and Seattle overnights.
I won't ever defend the pay here, it is atrocious. Schedules tho, are not much of a legit gripe unless you've been here for 5+ years.
03-04-2016, 09:45 AM
#4186
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 122
For anyone who is curious about the schedules, let me remind them that these folks saying they're "bad", are saying so in a relative sense. The truth is Frontier is no longer a Denver-centric airline and the schedules reflect that.
Keeping in mind that April is a 30 day bid month, our schedules are pretty decent. System wide days off averages 15 days off. Denver bid packs only contain three 12 day off lines, eight 13 day off lines, sixty-six 14 day off lines. Basically if you bid in the top 60%, you are guaranteed at least half the month off. ORD is even better with NO 12 day lines and a couple 13 day lines. The top 80% line holders will have 15+ days off. It seems to me our overnights are better next month too, lots of long Punta Cana and Cancun, some 30 hour Portland and Seattle overnights.
I won't ever defend the pay here, it is atrocious. Schedules tho, are not much of a legit gripe unless you've been here for 5+ years.
Keeping in mind that April is a 30 day bid month, our schedules are pretty decent. System wide days off averages 15 days off. Denver bid packs only contain three 12 day off lines, eight 13 day off lines, sixty-six 14 day off lines. Basically if you bid in the top 60%, you are guaranteed at least half the month off. ORD is even better with NO 12 day lines and a couple 13 day lines. The top 80% line holders will have 15+ days off. It seems to me our overnights are better next month too, lots of long Punta Cana and Cancun, some 30 hour Portland and Seattle overnights.
I won't ever defend the pay here, it is atrocious. Schedules tho, are not much of a legit gripe unless you've been here for 5+ years.
03-04-2016, 10:07 AM
#4187
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 501
For myself the issue is the average line credit is generally hovering around guarantee. Couple guarantee with our lacking hourly rates, laughable medical coverage/surcharges, and another 10% just to get a 5% salary match then I need to be picking up flying to stay ahead financially.
This is the only place I've worked where people brag about banking 120+ credit... Until I look at their month details just to find out they've picked up flying over a vacation week and are down to min days off. Are you kidding me? Do you think you really got them on that one? Hey, I get it.. I need a lot of credit too to make this place work for me, but to brag about it? What have you accomplished? Is daddy proud of you now? Come on.. No pilot here is making great money. End of conversation.
We've got a lot of work to do. Both with a CBA and the mindset of our pilot group.
This is the only place I've worked where people brag about banking 120+ credit... Until I look at their month details just to find out they've picked up flying over a vacation week and are down to min days off. Are you kidding me? Do you think you really got them on that one? Hey, I get it.. I need a lot of credit too to make this place work for me, but to brag about it? What have you accomplished? Is daddy proud of you now? Come on.. No pilot here is making great money. End of conversation.
We've got a lot of work to do. Both with a CBA and the mindset of our pilot group.
03-04-2016, 10:19 AM
#4188
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: A320
Posts: 127
For myself the issue is the average line credit is generally hovering around guarantee. Couple guarantee with our lacking hourly rates, laughable medical coverage/surcharges, and another 10% just to get a 5% salary match then I need to be picking up flying to stay ahead financially.
This is the only place I've worked where people brag about banking 120+ credit... Until I look at their month details just to find out they've picked up flying over a vacation week and are down to min days off. Are you kidding me? Do you think you really got them on that one? Hey, I get it.. I need a lot of credit too to make this place work for me, but to brag about it? What have you accomplished? Is daddy proud of you now? Come on.. No pilot here is making great money. End of conversation.
We've got a lot of work to do. Both with a CBA and the mindset of our pilot group.
This is the only place I've worked where people brag about banking 120+ credit... Until I look at their month details just to find out they've picked up flying over a vacation week and are down to min days off. Are you kidding me? Do you think you really got them on that one? Hey, I get it.. I need a lot of credit too to make this place work for me, but to brag about it? What have you accomplished? Is daddy proud of you now? Come on.. No pilot here is making great money. End of conversation.
We've got a lot of work to do. Both with a CBA and the mindset of our pilot group.
03-04-2016, 10:48 AM
#4189
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 79
For anyone who is curious about the schedules, let me remind them that these folks saying they're "bad", are saying so in a relative sense. The truth is Frontier is no longer a Denver-centric airline and the schedules reflect that.
Keeping in mind that April is a 30 day bid month, our schedules are pretty decent. System wide days off averages 15 days off. Denver bid packs only contain three 12 day off lines, eight 13 day off lines, sixty-six 14 day off lines. Basically if you bid in the top 60%, you are guaranteed at least half the month off. ORD is even better with NO 12 day lines and a couple 13 day lines. The top 80% line holders will have 15+ days off. It seems to me our overnights are better next month too, lots of long Punta Cana and Cancun, some 30 hour Portland and Seattle overnights.
I won't ever defend the pay here, it is atrocious. Schedules tho, are not much of a legit gripe unless you've been here for 5+ years.
Keeping in mind that April is a 30 day bid month, our schedules are pretty decent. System wide days off averages 15 days off. Denver bid packs only contain three 12 day off lines, eight 13 day off lines, sixty-six 14 day off lines. Basically if you bid in the top 60%, you are guaranteed at least half the month off. ORD is even better with NO 12 day lines and a couple 13 day lines. The top 80% line holders will have 15+ days off. It seems to me our overnights are better next month too, lots of long Punta Cana and Cancun, some 30 hour Portland and Seattle overnights.
I won't ever defend the pay here, it is atrocious. Schedules tho, are not much of a legit gripe unless you've been here for 5+ years.
03-04-2016, 11:09 AM
#4190
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2010
Position: A320 Captain
Posts: 641
For myself the issue is the average line credit is generally hovering around guarantee. Couple guarantee with our lacking hourly rates, laughable medical coverage/surcharges, and another 10% just to get a 5% salary match then I need to be picking up flying to stay ahead financially.
This is the only place I've worked where people brag about banking 120+ credit... Until I look at their month details just to find out they've picked up flying over a vacation week and are down to min days off. Are you kidding me? Do you think you really got them on that one? Hey, I get it.. I need a lot of credit too to make this place work for me, but to brag about it? What have you accomplished? Is daddy proud of you now? Come on.. No pilot here is making great money. End of conversation.
We've got a lot of work to do. Both with a CBA and the mindset of our pilot group.
This is the only place I've worked where people brag about banking 120+ credit... Until I look at their month details just to find out they've picked up flying over a vacation week and are down to min days off. Are you kidding me? Do you think you really got them on that one? Hey, I get it.. I need a lot of credit too to make this place work for me, but to brag about it? What have you accomplished? Is daddy proud of you now? Come on.. No pilot here is making great money. End of conversation.
We've got a lot of work to do. Both with a CBA and the mindset of our pilot group.
Barley is right! To make up some of the difference in pay we are working our asses off on vacation. That being said, I would like to take my vacations and make a decent wage at the same time like other major airlines.
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