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03-03-2016, 06:38 AM

#4161

VegassBus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Revenge

Oh so you don't have much experience there.

A whole bunch know everything's in this thread and whole bunch that haven't been around the industry long.

I've been in this industry since 2004. I know a little and I'm right. After the honeymoon stage it's tough to be happy when you make 50% less than your peers.

But go ahead and sling insults because deep down I'm right and you know it

03-03-2016, 09:36 AM

#4162

The Revenge

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50% less than your peers? Whose that? Whose your peers?

No insults. Facts. You haven't been at Spirit long.

03-03-2016, 09:37 AM

#4163

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Originally Posted by The Revenge

50% less than your peers? Whose that? Whose your peers?

Any US Airline flying an A-320, and don't fall for managements bull**** that you deserve less. Pilot costs have a minimal impact on CASM.

My hourly rate is $0.56 per seat per 321s, F9s is even less. It's horrific

03-03-2016, 09:40 AM

#4164

The Revenge

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I don't care what you cost the company.

NAME ONE AIRLINE THAT SPIRIT PAYS 50% LESS THAN ON THE A-320.

03-03-2016, 09:51 AM

#4165

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Originally Posted by The Revenge

I don't care what you cost the company.

NAME ONE AIRLINE THAT SPIRIT PAYS 50% LESS THAN ON THE A-320.

DELTA, UAL, AA, even SWA on their 737s ake a look at their 3rd year CA rates and take a look At F9/NKS. Do the math, don't forget to throw in DC plan and profit sharing

03-03-2016, 09:58 AM

#4166

The Revenge

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You said Spirit and the A-320. Not any 737.
I asked what you meant by your piers.

You said any US airline flying the A-320.

03-03-2016, 10:00 AM

#4167

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Revenge

You said Spirit and the A-320. Not any 737.
I asked what you meant by your piers.

You said any US airline flying the A-320.
What airline flying the A-320 pays 50% more than Spirit?

What does it matter? It's a small narrow body. 737/A-320. Same thing.

And I already told you.

Delta

American

United

03-03-2016, 10:09 AM

#4168

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Revenge

I don't care what you cost the company.

NAME ONE AIRLINE THAT SPIRIT PAYS 50% LESS THAN ON THE A-320.

Purely informal, to each their own, QOL is more important than money for some, money is for others.
All from APC pay rates:

year: Spirit/UAL/%

FO
1: $38/$79/48%
2:$72/$122/59%
3: $78/$142/54%
4: $84/$146/57%
5:$90/$149/60%

CA
4: $131/$231/56%
5: $136/$233/58%
6: $142/$235/60%
7: $147/$237/62%
8: $151/$238/63%

Top out year 15 for spirit, year 12 for UAL
FO: $109/$168/65%
CA: $185/$246/75%

*This doesn't include the upcoming pay raises for United

This also doesn't reflect the fact that there are captains at spirit and F9 that have only been on property for 2-3 years. So pay rates come close to evening out. It also doesn't reflect that upgrade times at the big 3 are coming down and already have significantly at AA and DAL with UAL not far behind given current projections.

03-03-2016, 10:14 AM

#4169

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Those rates also don't show United's 16% DC plan and the 13% bonus they received this year. Don't forget the per diem difference as well. When you factor those in Spirit pays less then half of what United does. Just saying. I am all for QOL but when your peers are toasting you that badly in pay it makes it difficult to claim you have better QOL. Money is a part of QOL, not just days off.