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Old 08-21-2015, 01:43 PM
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I guess my question would be, what is your culture?
From what I can glean from the post in order to fit in I have to want to work there, understand that people are not happy with their current state of management, also not be happy with current management, and put up a show that I have the job people want.
I completely agree that the interview is where most who have not been sincere will be found out and not offered the job I just thought that the recruitment process would weed out slightly more than it seems to have recently. I don't think this is a "dead WRONG" question.
I know the reason I haven't been asked to an interview. It's because I haven't applied yet. I would like to live in base, that being Denver, and frontier is one of three that can afford me that opportunity.
I do think frontier has a great group of people working there. Every time I JS I am treated well and can see the crews get along. To me that is more important than money, to a degree. I, like most, would like to see better pay and work rules and I hope that materializes soon. I think frontier is losing many "good fits" because of this.
I hope I have what it takes. I like to think I do, but no one knows till they tow the line.
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:17 PM
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I am a bit hesitant to try and explain what our culture is, but what the heck...

Considering that the vast majority of our pilots live in Colorado, I'll say one part of it is the Western/Colorado/mountain culture. That is to say, laid back, friendly and helpful. Perhaps a bit more laid back than people from the busy, crowded North East.

We have a pretty small percentage of ex military pilots here. Lots of our pilots are veterans of regional carriers and corporate gigs. Therefore we have less of the captain is God thing here. I think most of our pilots actually understand what CRM is.

Our pilots also take care of the entire crew. It's not like at United where half the pilots don't even say hi to the flight attendants. Being a smaller company also helps out with the more family feel. Most everyone knows everyone else and it makes working here very pleasant
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:31 PM
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That sounds just what I am looking for being a laid back man from the mountains myself. There truly is a difference between frontier and others.
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Old 08-21-2015, 05:43 PM
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Hoover, Your first failure in a pre-interview would be to say"I want to be based in CO" Frontier is no longer a Denver centric airline. They are growing everywhere but CO. Now if you are willing to be based wherever we have bases, that may land you an interview. As our Senior Denver FO's start upgrading then you may be based in CO.
Good luck with your choices.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hoover
That sounds just what I am looking for being a laid back man from the mountains myself. There truly is a difference between frontier and others.
Yo...Hoover, don't sweat some of the previous pedestal crap. I think Bolo is trying to make himself feel better about where he works with quotes like "Your first failure", "Are you willing to step up to the plate?", and "Are you good enough?" Seriously dude, It's not NASA. It's a National airline with a lot of potential and if nothing else a good stepping stone! Be pleasant, be yourself, and rehearse your "I'm never going to (insert Legacy) because this place is better for my QOL bullshi$...and you'll be fine. Frontier is a very nice place to work with great crews...but it's an Airbus, not an SR-71. Previous posts would like you to believe that they have performed at such a high level they've achieved something that the common man could not. Two months of training, studying, and dedication....that's what it takes. Good Luck!!
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Old 08-22-2015, 06:55 AM
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If saying I want to be based in DEN during the interview would hurt then that is good advice. To be honest I am only applying to airlines where I could eventually be based somewhere I want to live for the next 30 yrs. commuting is getting old, no one would disagree with that.
I'm pretty used to folks pumping up their airline on the forums. I have no problem with pilots being prideful in where they work.
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Old 08-22-2015, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by carolinaflyer
Yo...Hoover, don't sweat some of the previous pedestal crap. I think Bolo is trying to make himself feel better about where he works with quotes like "Your first failure", "Are you willing to step up to the plate?", and "Are you good enough?" Seriously dude, It's not NASA. It's a National airline with a lot of potential and if nothing else a good stepping stone! Be pleasant, be yourself, and rehearse your "I'm never going to (insert Legacy) because this place is better for my QOL bullshi$...and you'll be fine. Frontier is a very nice place to work with great crews...but it's an Airbus, not an SR-71. Previous posts would like you to believe that they have performed at such a high level they've achieved something that the common man could not. Two months of training, studying, and dedication....that's what it takes. Good Luck!!
Actually Carolina... Bolo wrote "We can teach a Monkey to fly the Airbus. Most important is if you fit into our culture." I think you may have misread him. Your references to NASA and SR-71's don't jive with monkeys - well wait monkeys did fly NASA rockets ... Anyway ... I took the spirit of his wording more to mean: 'Do you have the personality; the interpersonal skills?' 'Will you make a good fit?' 'Can you bring it on interview day?' 'Are you not a wierdo, prick, or DB?' Because even though you don't need Chuck Yeager's stick skills to fly for Frontier (as you and Bolo BOTH aptly point out), you do need to be as cool a dude, as nice a guy, and as fun to be stuck with as he is - if not as cool under pressure.
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Old 08-22-2015, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
If saying I want to be based in DEN during the interview would hurt then that is good advice. To be honest I am only applying to airlines where I could eventually be based somewhere I want to live for the next 30 yrs. commuting is getting old, no one would disagree with that.
I'm pretty used to folks pumping up their airline on the forums. I have no problem with pilots being prideful in where they work.
Just decide where you want to be, then do the leg work to get there. I'm here because I know some great people here and felt like I would be a good fit. And hey, they hired me, so here I am.
Anyone can get through the training if they put in the hours. Just passed my type ride this morning, so celebrating!! Good luck whatever you choose.
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Old 08-22-2015, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ISurfer88
Thank you to all who keep this thread up to date with good info. I will be starting class 9/3 and I'm extremely excited. Great company with a great future ahead. If you are in this class too send me a PM, I dont live in Denver so I'm looking for a crashpad if I can figure out transportation.
Congrats on getting hired again. You're a really good dude and glad they said yes!
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Old 08-22-2015, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by carolinaflyer
Seriously guys...don't hold your breath for a new base. It's been rumored on these boards for two years and we've passed many of the dates previously speculated for announcements. Healthy focus on what you have now is much more productive than more speculation on what may become. Rumors, rumors, rumors...small minded and useless.
Now here is a quote from Carolinaflyer! Let's just say clueless comes to mind! Just giving advice to Hoover. And yes, like Sulkair pointed out I did say "A Monkey could fly the Airbus." Obviously reading comprehension is not your strong suit!
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