Cruise

BBB...when the all but inevitable merger with Spirit goes down.

xDarkwingx

AMEN to that. Gimme the $$ and fairly combine the list but don't make me fly a banana either!

phoenix 23684

We will go back to the old slogan. Spirit of the West, the taxi yellow with the animals. my 2 cents. I do believe IPO will happen first. We are positioned to IPO this fall, then the merger could follow shortly.

sulkair

I'd imagine Spirit's list is much younger than ours, which won't bode well for a strict date of hire dovetailing. It will be a train wreck. I kinda hope it never happens.

Cruise

No imagination required. The majority of Spirit's list has 4-5 years of longevity or less...with 3 yr Captains. Don't think the same can be said of Frontier's list. So yes, the merger of the lists will, more than likely, be a train wreck.

sab1250

Not with the amount of planes both company's have coming. Worst case it would suck and people would take a hit for a couple of years till deliveries start really ramping up. That is unless some deliveries went away with a merger.

JoeyMeatballs

Do you really give a **** about the color? You should worry about being the lowest paid Airbus pilots and if a merger does happen, how much harder it will be for everyone to get better pay considering how far we both would have to come if you average our (Spirits low pay as well as your horrendous pay?)

Hope it never becomes an issue and we never merge but if we do, I sure as **** don't care what they call us or what color our airplanes are

sab1250

I'm pretty sure he was at least half joking. Most pilots would fly a pink Navajo for life if the pay and qol were right! I know I would!

sulkair

Geez, you need to relax meatballs.

Broflyer

I'd vote a big fat NO on any merger. But, Mr. Franke probably won't ask for my 2 cents in a billion dollar plus deal like that. Here's some interesting math though:

Mergered today the "new" airline would have 128 airframes. Spirit's orders, plus Frontiers orders scheduled by the end of the decade would bring the fleet to 328, accord to numbers found on APC (I can only confirm F9's orders.)

Both airlines are operating around 13 hrs a day, which equates to 10-ish crews per plane. 328 airplanes = 6,560 pilots plus a 30% reserve staffing = 8,528 pilots to staff a combined airline by 2021. The total list right now would be 2,000 pilots.

Even though a merger could potentially be awful for years, maybe in the long term, it's not the end of the world? Of course, that's all dependent on current orders turning into real deliveries, and FAPA's ability to negotiate F9 off the bottom of a merged list.

But it looks like my crystal ball is still deferred... Hate those darn MEL's. Just one man's opinion...