Frontier Hiring.
04-01-2015, 05:59 PM
#2201
New Hire
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 4
Holy Irony, Batman...! 
Good summary, I'm sure it'll help a lot of folks out who are considering their options. I think I'd go with Clark, too, if Frontier were my sole or main target, for all the reasons you cite. I used Emerald Coast, with no regrets. One significant (IMO) thing you left out in your review is ECIC's "customer for life" policy--if you want to have a "top off" for a second interview (or if you feel it's been too long since your prep and want to refresh before the big day, say), you can take as many seminars as you wish. They also have a phone consultation with a HR-type included in their rate, which I found very useful. I don't know if their money-back guarantee is unique, but I haven't seen the others advertise it. [I have no connection to Albie or ECIC, I'm just a very satisfied customer.]
Good luck with your interview prep and, of course, the interview itself!
Good summary, I'm sure it'll help a lot of folks out who are considering their options. I think I'd go with Clark, too, if Frontier were my sole or main target, for all the reasons you cite. I used Emerald Coast, with no regrets. One significant (IMO) thing you left out in your review is ECIC's "customer for life" policy--if you want to have a "top off" for a second interview (or if you feel it's been too long since your prep and want to refresh before the big day, say), you can take as many seminars as you wish. They also have a phone consultation with a HR-type included in their rate, which I found very useful. I don't know if their money-back guarantee is unique, but I haven't seen the others advertise it. [I have no connection to Albie or ECIC, I'm just a very satisfied customer.]
Good luck with your interview prep and, of course, the interview itself!
04-01-2015, 08:09 PM
#2202
On Reserve
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: 737
Posts: 10
New to the forums here, but after reading all of this on prepping for F9, thought I'd throw in my $.02. I recently interviewed a couple weeks ago. I opted to use Emerald Coast for their online audio prep only. Although I'm not typically drawn to use audio "self-help" style assistance, I will say that listening to the whole block of audio files offered from them just prior to heading to Denver did help tremendously just to get my head in the game. A more in-depth prep may have helped, but in the end, I was offered a spot in this great family of professionals. Altogether, its up to you to show your best. If a full prep helps you calm the nerves, I say go for it.
04-02-2015, 12:23 PM
#2203
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 40
New to the forums here, but after reading all of this on prepping for F9, thought I'd throw in my $.02. I recently interviewed a couple weeks ago. I opted to use Emerald Coast for their online audio prep only. Although I'm not typically drawn to use audio "self-help" style assistance, I will say that listening to the whole block of audio files offered from them just prior to heading to Denver did help tremendously just to get my head in the game. A more in-depth prep may have helped, but in the end, I was offered a spot in this great family of professionals. Altogether, its up to you to show your best. If a full prep helps you calm the nerves, I say go for it.
I am driving up to Denver tomorrow so i can be there a day ahead of time for my new hire class starting on the 6th. Anyone have a line on a place to stay or a room for rent other than the 70.00/night hotel?
04-02-2015, 02:52 PM
#2204
On Reserve
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: 737
Posts: 10
Thanks flyboyx. I'll be in town in June for class. I looked around, but eventually settled on the staybridge. Being able to walk across the parking lot to class sold me. Im sure there are cheaper options, but I was glad to not need a rental car. Good luck searching!
04-02-2015, 04:44 PM
#2206
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: 1900D CA
Posts: 3,476
For May the average line is 80 hours credit and 15.5 days off. 16 days off average in Chicago. Chicago has lots of day turns and a mix of 3,4 and 5 day trips. Denver has a mix of trips, but very few 5 day trips.
Denver currently has a little over 300 crews, Chicago has about 70 crews and I expect it to go a little more.
Our trip rig says we get one hour of credit for every 3.75 hours away from home. the minimum pay for a 4 day is about 20 hours. Honestly, a fair amount of trips are so inefficient that the trip rig sets the pay for the trip. The only plus side to that is that a lot of trips are easy, not like sw guys flying 5 legs everyday.
04-02-2015, 05:59 PM
#2207
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Position: LeftSeat PA-44
Posts: 528
We really don't have an average four day trip. Generally trips are not very productive, although the company is totally redoing the entire flight schedule for the summer and they claim the schedules will get better. I could expand more on that later...
For May the average line is 80 hours credit and 15.5 days off. 16 days off average in Chicago. Chicago has lots of day turns and a mix of 3,4 and 5 day trips. Denver has a mix of trips, but very few 5 day trips.
Denver currently has a little over 300 crews, Chicago has about 70 crews and I expect it to go a little more.
Our trip rig says we get one hour of credit for every 3.75 hours away from home. the minimum pay for a 4 day is about 20 hours. Honestly, a fair amount of trips are so inefficient that the trip rig sets the pay for the trip. The only plus side to that is that a lot of trips are easy, not like sw guys flying 5 legs everyday.
For May the average line is 80 hours credit and 15.5 days off. 16 days off average in Chicago. Chicago has lots of day turns and a mix of 3,4 and 5 day trips. Denver has a mix of trips, but very few 5 day trips.
Denver currently has a little over 300 crews, Chicago has about 70 crews and I expect it to go a little more.
Our trip rig says we get one hour of credit for every 3.75 hours away from home. the minimum pay for a 4 day is about 20 hours. Honestly, a fair amount of trips are so inefficient that the trip rig sets the pay for the trip. The only plus side to that is that a lot of trips are easy, not like sw guys flying 5 legs everyday.
You said trips are inefficient, I take that to mean you are sitting in hotels on longer overnights then?
04-02-2015, 06:28 PM
#2208
Banned
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: doggy style
Posts: 1,006
04-02-2015, 08:17 PM
#2209
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: 1900D CA
Posts: 3,476
As far as Chicago trips being commutable, I would imagine a fair number of them are.
04-02-2015, 09:04 PM
#2210
Banned
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: doggy style
Posts: 1,006
For example, D3267A on Apr 7 had the MSN turn split off and is now showing 7 hours credit for the 3 day vs 14 prior to the split.
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