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Old 03-31-2015, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by GVGUY
I am sure she does a wonderful job and you get quite a bit for your money. However, I'm sure two 5 hour sessions aren't cheap.
Hate to tell ya buddy, but I was as broke as anybody at the time I was in your position. But I really wanted this job. I found a way to pay for it. She is worth the money.... And a whole lot more in my opinion. How badly do you want to stack the deck on your side to be prepared and have the best possible chance of getting the job?
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Old 03-31-2015, 03:44 AM
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Does anyone have any info on when healthcare benefits go into effect? Is it day one or is there a waiting period?

On a secondary note, how about info on family travel benefits? Thanks!
Your benefits start the first of the month following the month of your employment. Meaning, classes usually start mid to end of the month. You will get coverage the following month. Pretty good deal. Not a lot of time without coverage. Remember that you can sign up for cobra within 30 days of your resignation date from your previous job. ( I believe it is 30, might be longer) I had this in my back pocket for the 5 days my family was uninsured. That way if someone needed the doc in that short time, I would just immediately sign up for cobra. Luckily we didn't and everything worked out.
What info do you want on family bennies for travel? Immediate family and one set of parents get them. Plus buddy passes. ( I think 24-28 of them.) if I remember right, it comes available 30 days after doh. But be careful.... Our flights are really full. These new seat con figs seem to be allowing more non-revs on though right now with the higher seating copacity. From what I have seen.
Hope that helps, I may be a little off on my effective dates on the non- rev, but I think that is correct.
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Old 03-31-2015, 04:52 AM
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I had to check and I was wrong. The travel benefits start at 30 days from DOH. Buddy Passes start at 90 days from DOH and you get 28 of them.
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Old 03-31-2015, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Breaker
Your benefits start the first of the month following the month of your employment. Meaning, classes usually start mid to end of the month. You will get coverage the following month. Pretty good deal. Not a lot of time without coverage. Remember that you can sign up for cobra within 30 days of your resignation date from your previous job. ( I believe it is 30, might be longer) I had this in my back pocket for the 5 days my family was uninsured. That way if someone needed the doc in that short time, I would just immediately sign up for cobra. Luckily we didn't and everything worked out.
What info do you want on family bennies for travel? Immediate family and one set of parents get them. Plus buddy passes. ( I think 24-28 of them.) if I remember right, it comes available 30 days after doh. But be careful.... Our flights are really full. These new seat con figs seem to be allowing more non-revs on though right now with the higher seating copacity. From what I have seen.
Hope that helps, I may be a little off on my effective dates on the non- rev, but I think that is correct.
Hey Speed, thanks for taking the time to answer!
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Old 03-31-2015, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Breaker
She is worth the money.... And a whole lot more in my opinion. How badly do you want to stack the deck on your side to be prepared and have the best possible chance of getting the job?
Unless you really really struggle with interviewing and don't think you can relax and be yourself, I think it is a waste of money. You're fooling yourself if you think the interviewers can't tell who has done interview prep and is giving canned answers.
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Old 03-31-2015, 11:23 AM
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Unless you really really struggle with interviewing and don't think you can relax and be yourself, I think it is a waste of money. You're fooling yourself if you think the interviewers can't tell who has done interview prep and is giving canned answers.
I disagree. There is a skill to interviewing that is not quite as simple as just being yourself. Frontier turns down a lot of people at the interview. I believe Lori Clark cost 400 dollars, but I'm glad I used her.
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Old 03-31-2015, 11:44 AM
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Unless you really really struggle with interviewing and don't think you can relax and be yourself, I think it is a waste of money. You're fooling yourself if you think the interviewers can't tell who has done interview prep and is giving canned answers.
Well... I hardly try to ever get into arguments on a forum as it is totally stupid but... that statement you said is totally asinine. You totally miss the point of the interview prep Lori gives you. She isn't giving you c"anned answers". She preps you on refining your answers and to step back and look at it in a different view. You really shouldn't be advertising this. By the way, just so you know, I have been offered every job I have ever applied to. (I can't tell you whether that means I interview well or not, but I just wanted to give you the background prior to Lori.) All prior to Lori's help and my huge opportunity here at F9. She still helped me in ways that I will always be able to look back to. My 2 cents on the deal.
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Old 03-31-2015, 12:06 PM
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I haven't steered anyone toward or away from interview prep, do what your gut tells you - but it is not a difficult interview. It didn't even cross my mind to do the interview prep, but I talked with numerous pilots about the experience. I, for whatever reason, felt prepared and relaxed about the F9 interview without a lot of hassle in preparing. I truly felt going into it that it was me they were deciding on, not my knowledge or background. Because of that I felt like there wasn't much I could do other than be myself and see where that got me.

Based on the type of person you are and how you present yourself, you either will make a good impression or you won't. Just like when you sit down in that seat next to the guy or gal on the other side of the cockpit for the first time. If you're disinterested, reserved, fake, etc; it can be sensed. That's my opinion. It is way more about who you are and how you interact than anything you can study.
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Old 03-31-2015, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by crflyer
I haven't steered anyone toward or away from interview prep, do what your gut tells you - but it is not a difficult interview. It didn't even cross my mind to do the interview prep, but I talked with numerous pilots about the experience. I, for whatever reason, felt prepared and relaxed about the F9 interview without a lot of hassle in preparing. I truly felt going into it that it was me they were deciding on, not my knowledge or background. Because of that I felt like there wasn't much I could do other than be myself and see where that got me.

Based on the type of person you are and how you present yourself, you either will make a good impression or you won't. Just like when you sit down in that seat next to the guy or gal on the other side of the cockpit for the first time. If you're disinterested, reserved, fake, etc; it can be sensed. That's my opinion. It is way more about who you are and how you interact than anything you can study.
crf, messaging with you the little that I did prior to your interview, I learned something about you ( I think ) ...And this is not meant to call you out in anyway, in fact I believe it accounts to a large degree why you did well in the interview and didn't get hung up with nerves etc, and allowed them to see the real you. Here it is...

You weren't 100 percent certain about Frontier. Actually that is an intelligent position to have. Until you 'interview' them, how can you be 100 percent certain? Most of us forget that the interview process is a two-way street. You probably went in there relaxed thinking, look, if this place is a good fit for me and I get the job then great, if not, no big deal, probably meant to be, I'll move on. That is a strong and freeing position to be in. You essentially cannot lose, therefore you're at your best. (sorry correct me if I am wrong - I just got that impression, and I respected it.)

Believe it or not, much of what Lori does it to build a confidence similar to this. This demeanor may come naturally to you and others, but possibly not to me, or others. She helps you with strategies to get past yourself so the interviewers can get what they need from you so THEY can make a good decision for Frontier.

I've flown with 2 different people on the interview panel, and they both told me that they often get guys/gals they know for certain are great people. They are rooting for them the whole day and want to hire them so badly, but the person just keeps sabotaging themselves because of nerves. I'd bet my paycheck that they don't care if you've prepped or not. They get so tired of having their time wasted. If Lori helps grease the wheels so you can give them a real representation of who you really are, they're happy. Lori does not teach you to be fake in the slightest way.
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Old 03-31-2015, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sulkair
crf, messaging with you the little that I did prior to your interview, I learned something about you ( I think ) ...And this is not meant to call you out in anyway, in fact I believe it accounts to a large degree why you did well in the interview and didn't get hung up with nerves etc, and allowed them to see the real you. Here it is...

You weren't 100 percent certain about Frontier. Actually that is an intelligent position to have. Until you 'interview' them, how can you be 100 percent certain? Most of us forget that the interview process is a two-way street. You probably went in there relaxed thinking, look, if this place is a good fit for me and I get the job then great, if not, no big deal, probably meant to be, I'll move on. That is a strong and freeing position to be in. You essentially cannot lose, therefore you're at your best. (sorry correct me if I am wrong - I just got that impression, and I respected it.)

Believe it or not, much of what Lori does it to build a confidence similar to this. This demeanor may come naturally to you and others, but possibly not to me, or others. She helps you with strategies to get past yourself so the interviewers can get what they need from you so THEY can make a good decision for Frontier.

I've flown with 2 different people on the interview panel, and they both told me that they often get guys/gals they know for certain are great people. They are rooting for them the whole day and want to hire them so badly, but the person just keeps sabotaging themselves because of nerves. I'd bet my paycheck that they don't care if you've prepped or not. They get so tired of having their time wasted. If Lori helps grease the wheels so you can give them a real representation of who you really are, they're happy. Lori does not teach you to be fake in the slightest way.
You're incredibly accurate here, and no worries on bringing this up. Also, I'm not saying people shouldn't do any prep. It may be of benefit to many people, but it may not be necessary for others. People need to know what it is F9 is looking for and understand what the prep will or will not do for them.
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