it's official FAPA is negotiating lower rates
06-06-2011, 04:47 AM
#82
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Bar,
For someone that is always speaking of unity, let's replace the above quote with this. As a DAL guy:
"... how much credit does (insert airline of choice) offer for my flying? Well, that's how much I'm willing to extend for theirs."
"They did their job, I did mine. Neither of us deserves any credit on the other's list."
So much for unity!
06-06-2011, 06:53 AM
#83
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Bar,
For someone that is always speaking of unity, let's replace the above quote with this. As a DAL guy:
"... how much credit does (insert airline of choice) offer for my flying? Well, that's how much I'm willing to extend for theirs."
"They did their job, I did mine. Neither of us deserves any credit on the other's list."
So much for unity!
Bar,
For someone that is always speaking of unity, let's replace the above quote with this. As a DAL guy:
"... how much credit does (insert airline of choice) offer for my flying? Well, that's how much I'm willing to extend for theirs."
"They did their job, I did mine. Neither of us deserves any credit on the other's list."
So much for unity!
Does a Navy SeaBee get "credit" in the carpenter's or ironworker's union upon leaving the service?
No, he does not.
Does an Army MP "get credit" in the police officer's union when he gets finished with military service and applies to a local police force?
No, he does not.
Does an Air Force communications specialist get "credit" in the "Communication Workers of America" (CWA) when he leaves active duty?
No, he does not.
Does a Coast Guard Bosun's mate get "credit" in the Merchant Marine when he finishes up his commitment to the USCG?
No, he does not.
Military aviators are no different.
06-08-2011, 05:41 AM
#84
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I'd be careful of the comparisons. You could use the same argument for regional pilots too. Compatible skills yes, but not the same career as a major.
06-08-2011, 06:27 AM
#85
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Precisely. That's why we, and former military, come in at the bottom of the seniority list. As it should be. As far as careers go, being a jet Captain at the regionals is the closest thing to being a major airline pilot. The only real differences are pay and work rules. What was this thread about?
06-08-2011, 10:13 AM
#86
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Umm, flying commercially under FAA part 121 rules in domestic and international operations in transport category aircraft in the service of a passenger or cargo airline is the same career.
06-08-2011, 10:41 AM
#87
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Ummm, working at Steak 'n Shake and Morton's Steak House are the same career too. Only problem is you usually need to work at a place like the first one to get a job at the second one.
06-08-2011, 12:46 PM
#88
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So true, I've just come from Steak n Shake to Morton's. Hand's down much better steak and service.
06-08-2011, 06:12 PM
#89
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For one thing, the former military guys probably wouldn't leave their jobs for lower paying commuter jobs, so giving them credit for years of service would probably bring the industry average up.
Anyway, I think it should be all about bringing up wages.
Anyway, I think it should be all about bringing up wages.
06-08-2011, 08:51 PM
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You'd also think that flying a heavy transport would count more for getting on with a major airline, but (at least at United), F-16 time counted for more than 737/757/747 time.
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