it's official FAPA is negotiating lower rates
06-10-2011, 07:34 PM
#111
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Uh, I was responding to a person who said this:
So I posted this with a little wink smilie just so nobody could miss the TIC.
Get it now ace?
Carl
So I posted this with a little wink smilie just so nobody could miss the TIC.
Get it now ace?
Carl
06-10-2011, 07:43 PM
#113
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I am so glad that I voted for IBT.. FAPA working on concessions behind the closed doors while we are suggesting that we should all become one to avoid whipsaw is amazing. I have so much respect for most of the pilots individually, I am affraid that is not something I can say about the FAPA management.
RPC is a tool to keep the egomaniac FAPA people still in management..
ESOP in exchange of savings ? You believe in that sh!t? Go to B concourse and ask your buddies in UAL about that.. Oh yeah, Siegel was in the control yoke when they decided to do that in UAL with Wolfe..
Dumb move FAPA!!!!
RPC is a tool to keep the egomaniac FAPA people still in management..
ESOP in exchange of savings ? You believe in that sh!t? Go to B concourse and ask your buddies in UAL about that.. Oh yeah, Siegel was in the control yoke when they decided to do that in UAL with Wolfe..
Dumb move FAPA!!!!
06-10-2011, 08:09 PM
#114
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RAH pilots will let this place burn before taking any further concessions. This guy's stance is purely pro-management, kind of sounds like WH was right over his shoulder planting seeds. I still can't believe you guys are falling for this. Revenue is the killer here, not wages. FAPA/RPC is taking another step backwards.
PULL HEAD OUT OF SAND!
06-10-2011, 08:23 PM
#115
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You F9ers are going to get exactly what you deserve. When it happens, you better not place any blame on anyone other than yourselves. You've made a stupid, shortsighted, arrogant, naive, and costly mistake....exactly what BB wanted all along.
06-10-2011, 11:07 PM
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Bleeding cash is the killer here. The branded experiment is a disaster that will soon be dead without a major overhaul to just about everything.
The toilet has been flushed. The branded turd is circling in the vortex. Bedford is trying to reach down and save it. You are blinded right now by your (and the airline businesses) history. This is (any) "Business 101" right now. The ship is taking on water fast. The market is doing what it does best, killing off the weak!
PULL HEAD OUT OF SAND!
The problem is the management and their head being in the sand on how to run this airline. The problem is yields, not cost.
Did you ever question BB on his decision to send the experienced people away like Sean Menke and Ian Arthur.. Show me when was the last time a person like Greg Aretakis ran a profitable airline.. The people who have had really bad airline tenures are in charge of the 'branded' operations now.
06-11-2011, 02:04 PM
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Everyone in the airline industry is singing the same song except you guys. The problem with F9 is not the costs. With 170s gone you have the lowest CASM than even Southwest. It's a proven fact..
The problem is the management and their head being in the sand on how to run this airline. The problem is yields, not cost.
Did you ever question BB on his decision to send the experienced people away like Sean Menke and Ian Arthur.. Show me when was the last time a person like Greg Aretakis ran a profitable airline.. The people who have had really bad airline tenures are in charge of the 'branded' operations now.
The problem is the management and their head being in the sand on how to run this airline. The problem is yields, not cost.
Did you ever question BB on his decision to send the experienced people away like Sean Menke and Ian Arthur.. Show me when was the last time a person like Greg Aretakis ran a profitable airline.. The people who have had really bad airline tenures are in charge of the 'branded' operations now.
That's a nugget right there!! how did vanguard work out for him?? Good call SeattleP!
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