Dirty Rat

Yeah, and the pilots who should be flying those routes are thrown out on the street by the beloved Republic. What a farce.

Nortonious

Was wondering the same thing. Heard a rumor MKE was just going to be a frequent overnight at first. Any F9ers confirm this?

Fletch727

Are you going to jump all over the Frontier pilots for flying Midwest routes like you have the Republic pilots?

paxhauler85

1) I'm not holding my breath since everyone at Republic claims that all sides will sit down after the sale is completed.

2) They're getting new 320's but parking 319/318's. It's a swap. Want proof? There's a F9 airbus with the animal picture removed from the tail at the F9 hangar in DEN. Until recently, there were 2 or 3 of the same airplanes sitting in PHX just south of 8/26. I hope for F9's sake that they are growing, but I don't think its true.

3) Simply a re-allocation of aircraft. Those airplanes will come off DEN routes to be sent to MKE. Lynx is starting service to SLC soon. That used to be a mainline route, one that UA flies an Airbus on.

320ToBearz

They will be scabbing it once that first airbus flies out of MKE, you bet.

Dirty Rat

If the tables were turned and 717's were in Denver flying Frontier routes while their pilots were thrown out on the streets, do you honestly think they would sit back and welcome us with open arms?

n9810f

Old news...and partly inaccurate. The planes in PHX were 3 months ago and those were exited during the bankruptcy process way before RP put its bid in. These planes were part of the general reduction in capacity that helped return F9 to profitability.

As for the 318 swap...the 320's being leased during bankruptcy were suppose to be swaps. The order for 10 or so 320's is growth. That order has been on the books for some time. But now rumor around F9 is the 318's aren't going anywhere except the 2 that have left. F9 owns the rest of the 318's and once it's out of Ch 11 in a week it won't have the luxury of using bankruptcy to rid them.

Flounder

[quote=FLEX;683454]FLEX -- Why does it interest you so that Southwest pilots have an interest in your situation? We had a potential benefit to both groups (my opinion) and are watching from the sidelines to see if our assumptions and estimates were correct. No need to be flippant toward the pilot group for a bad maintenance decision. Take care--

KDENPilot

Boy, you're bitter, give it a rest already. You weren't on strike, no picket lines were crossed, therefore no scabbing occurred. You want to point out a scab, there's all sorts of links to scab vision on the Amerijet strike thread. Oh, and guess what, even if either the Frontier or Republic guys wanted to refuse the flying on principle, they couldn't. It would be an illegal work action, and those ARE AGAINST THE LAW, or are you so blinded by irrational anger and hatred that you can't understand that? Midwest is owned by RAH now, as is Frontier, so using RAH and/or Frontier pilots to fly old Midwest routes is management's call, whether you like it or not. What's happened to the YX guys sucks, but it's not the fault of any pilot group...Midwest, Frontier, Republic or otherwise. Sometimes things just don't work out. Midwest pilots aren't the first group in aviation history to lose their jobs, and they probably won't be the last. Somehow, the pilots from Braniff 1 & 2, Frontier 1, Pan Am, Eastern (the guys who weren't scabs,) and many others managed to move on. The Midwest guys will, too.

320ToBearz

Non of your examples were another airline actively flying their old routes under their old brand.

Frontier pilots will be no different than the Republic ones when that first bus flies out of MKE in direct violation of the Midwest CBA.