Frontier jets will fly out of Milwaukee
09-29-2009, 03:36 PM
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well rat republic holdings bought midwest and they also bought frontier so they technically are republic's routes and they are using what ever aircraft they feel is the best airplane for the amount of demand on the route.
Both frontier and Midwest will have to get into that your a contractor who must conform to the "brand image" while working for the larger company metality. Its like how Chautauqua's flight attendants have to serve from front to back on continental airplanes yet back to front on delta.
Both frontier and Midwest will have to get into that your a contractor who must conform to the "brand image" while working for the larger company metality. Its like how Chautauqua's flight attendants have to serve from front to back on continental airplanes yet back to front on delta.
09-29-2009, 04:32 PM
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09-29-2009, 05:14 PM
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The Frontier name has been bought or aquired due to lack of use, it isn't the real Frontier.
Don't mistake them for a Legacy.
Midwest is the real Midwest to the best of my knowledge except it appears not to exist anymore.
09-29-2009, 05:24 PM
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why dont you ask all the guys at Usair, United, or (insert major who had to go through bankruptcy and came out with a lower pay check).
09-29-2009, 05:30 PM
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Southwest Airlines and American Airlines are non ALPA carriers, yet they are the best paid pilots in the industry. They simply undercut ALPA carriers for a few years. IE lower wages and b scale. Competition lets say. They drove the ALPA carriers into bankruptcy, then captured the higher wages. Bada bing, Bada boom.
ALPA leaders never took a pay cut, they are comfortable in their Monday 12pm to Friday 12pm world. Keep the dues coming in for ALPA, you will save a flight pay loss, lazy selfish idiot if you do not.
http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...0PERSONNEL.htm
09-29-2009, 06:18 PM
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UPS,
The name "Frontier Airlines" was purchased from Continental by former Frontier management to start up a new airline. The old Frontier was purchased out of bankruptcy by People's Express who was owned by Frank Lorenzo's gang, who incidently owned Continental. Continental was the surviving brand in that mess and they had no use for their rights to the Frontier name so the sold it.
I don't know what you were trying to insinuate with "not the real Frontier" or "don't mistake them for a Legacy", but the new Frontier by almost every metric is bigger and better than the old Frontier with a further reach in route network and a larger more modern fleet. The main difference between old and new is that the old Frontier didn't make it out of bankruptcy alive, while the new Frontier not only is planning to exit bankruptcy alive and intact, but it is also one of the very few major airlines to remain profitable on both an operating and net basis for all of 2009.
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