Larcifer

Be thankful????? For some of us a staple is equivalent to no job so come down off you pedestal....

tsquare

Egggggs...actly All this kumbaya stuff about the two groups having to come to an agreement is a bunch of bullplop that is entertaining at least. If Kelly wants the "merger.. .acquisition" whatever you SWA guys want to call it.. the pilots' feelings about it are (in the words of Perry Mason) "Incompetent, irrelevant and immaterial."

alfaromeo

Sure, it could be a cram down. I don't think that is how Southwest treats their employees or future employees. I see Southwest as a very well run company that knows that people matter. There is no reason for a staple job or a cram down. Since the Frontier pilots are bringing in their routes, gates, and marketing presence in Denver there is no reason that a reasonable compromise cannot be reached. If not, then Southwest would have to navigate through the uncharted waters of Bond-McCaskill and figure out how messy they want to get.

I don't know why you are so angry over this. I see this whole merger as a good thing for Southwest, if both pilot groups treat each with respect it will make things better for the pilots and the company.

mulcher

You dont bring routes, planes or Denver. You bring a warm body to sit in a seat and get the plane from A-B. F9 going BK made those other things available. Now the reason some get soooo uptight. Is because the only solution the F9 guys say is B&M and the widfall that you think that might bring. Now what would be fair and equitable? A staple maybe not. But sure as heck not relative or DOH. Those two would be huge windfalls for F9 pilots. You are dreaming if you think a F9 CA should be a 14 YR CA at SWA. Or any FO should be placed on top of a SWA FO. F9 guys what would be a good SLI?

I think it will be a staple for most and a few feathered in. All pay protected with years in service benies. Honestly I think this would be some what fair. Should any SWA pilot have to face furlough as a resault of this. NO! The devil is in the details though. That we will have to wait and see.

I want to see everyone have a job. In the long run I think everyone will. But, man some of you F9 guys think you are just doing fine. Remeber who it is in BK. Who it is that has $2.5 B. Who it is that will provide stable, long term, good paying jobs. Dont think RAH wont throw you under the bus. They have a history of that. SWA has a history of treating its people well. Once you are on the senority list.

MILPILOT17

Close, but don't think the Domicile protection is going to happen once the F9 person joins the SWAPA list? Needless to say, this is going to be very interesting; unless of course, the F9'ers decide SWA isn't where they want to be? If you think about it just a little you will realize that FAPA could kill this deal in a second if they decide to play hard ball with SWAPA. Good luck to all involved.

pilot124

1. What he is saying here is DON'T FORGET WHO IS IN CHARGE HERE GIRLS.
2. History of throwing people under the bus?????WHAT???? Name one time.
3. Wasn't it RAH that supplied F9 the DIP financing to keep them afloat last fall? Where was SW then. Some of you SW guys so arrogant it's sick.

IMHO

Heres the way I see this going. RAH has pulled back the covers, and Southwest is about to hop in the bed. Lynx will be an RAH company by the end of this year. Lynx will provide regional lift for Southwest in exchange for lowering the cash Southwest has to pay RAH for being frontiers largest unsecured creditor. Also as a part of this new partnership, Southwest and Midwest will become codeshare partners, Southwest large expansion in MKE will become small expansion. And everyone will come out winning.

fiel12

RAH didn't supply DIP financing to F9 because they're really nice guys who care.
It's business. They're hoping to get a return on their investment in some form or another. BTW are Midwest pilots happy about their deal with RAH?

Bigflya

Greedy, if you really were an airline exec then you would know that once the BK court OK's the deal then SWA is on the hook for the $$ no matter what labor groups decide at a later date. SWA may build in a "Break-up fee" that would allow them to walk away but that would still cost $$ and be subject to court approval. No matter how good the labor bliss is at SWA, the workers will not dictate M&A. In the end, you guys are compensated well to fly from pt A to B safely and on-time. Not make business decisions.

Bigflya

Could this be the beginning of a regional feed for SWA? You guys have been around long enough, have a large mkt share and service a large number of cities. The Lynx part of the deal will be interesting to see how it unfolds. Please show the rest of us that you can be successful at bringing these guys on the mainline list with better pay and bennies. Maybe us Legacy guys can continue to fight to bring back the feeders to mainline ourselves. Best of luck.