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Old 07-22-2024, 06:57 PM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/ryan...ly-profit.html

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ry...onths-6ee52747

This is the business model Barry wants to copy cat?

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I'm not too adept at economics so maybe someone can explain it.

RyanAir CEO says that demand is up but prices are "softer" than expected? Why is that? What is driving down the price? Competition? Poor customer service?

He sites higher staffing costs and Boeing woes but those seem like cost issues.
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I'm not too adept at economics so maybe someone can explain it.

RyanAir CEO says that demand is up but prices are "softer" than expected? Why is that? What is driving down the price? Competition? Poor customer service?

He sites higher staffing costs and Boeing woes but those seem like cost issues.
I think "more seats in the market" is driving down price. One airline airport, pay full price. When Allegiant, Breeze, Sun Country, and whoever else is at the airport, the prices are much different.

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I think "more seats in the market" is driving down price. One airline airport, pay full price. When Allegiant, Breeze, Sun Country, and whoever else is at the airport, the prices are much different.

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Agreed. While I'm not really familiar with the european market, here in the US, we have an oversupply of capacity in the domestic market. Even Ol' Ed Bastain is crying uncle. I'm sure the legacies are losing tons on their domestic routes.

I suppose this is what happens when every single airline thinks they are going to grow like crazy. I think we will see some contraction in domestic capacity.
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Agreed. While I'm not really familiar with the european market, here in the US, we have an oversupply of capacity in the domestic market. Even Ol' Ed Bastain is crying uncle. I'm sure the legacies are losing tons on their domestic routes.

I suppose this is what happens when every single airline thinks they are going to grow like crazy. I think we will see some contraction in domestic capacity.
Ed and Kirby are thinking how much more money they’d make if we weren’t around. I think it’s cyclical though. Economy is good and people are traveling. I went somewhere recently and bought a first class ticket on someone else since it was reasonable.

I wouldn’t bet against Frankie and Biffle though Things always change. Deltas recent meltdown and SWA’s close calls. Travel can change at the snap of the fingers.
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Again, the word is that DEMAND is up.
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I wonder how much of this demand we would be pouncing on if we didn't ******* off passengers for the last 4-5 years. Mainly recently since covid (pre covid I actually flew frontier a lot with little issues and no complaints)

So many people are anti frontier solely because of our CS and performance...
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do we have any statistics showing "repeat customers" ?

it indeed would suck if Barry had all the post-COVID pent up travel-boom and he p1ssed all of them off.

whatever happened to the interface with corporate travel networks, allowing them to book business travel? Haven't heard jack about that in six months.
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do we have any statistics showing "repeat customers" ?

it indeed would suck if Barry had all the post-COVID pent up travel-boom and he p1ssed all of them off.

whatever happened to the interface with corporate travel networks, allowing them to book business travel? Haven't heard jack about that in six months.
The company definitely has repeat customer data. They have quoted it before.

I can't imagine that we haven't hurt those numbers in the last year. Between the bag shakedown and the poor performance and trapping passengers on planes waiting for gates we have to be pushing people away
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