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Old 07-03-2024, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LifetimeCFI
regionals have been doing this for the better part of a decade now...
They have been and they are set up for it. Frontier is not set up for it, bid at your peril.
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Old 07-07-2024, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by spooldup
Classes should resume August, from what I have heard from a few LCAs, they got told it was because of the rebasing and sim availability and we should expect a lot of upgrades and new hires going forward.

Also, F9 has secured extensions on leases and spare engines for our 321neos which means we will only see about 4 planes down for mx at a time due to the engine issues out of the 24 currently effected. (This was in an email sent to LCAs from CD a few days ago, It was shared in my class group chat)
The email said classes are still expected in August but they will evaluate it. I don’t see them running any large upgrade classes until you see at least two months of solid hiring again minimum. They are being cautious with Pratt issues developing and close to zero attrition.
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Old 07-07-2024, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies67
The email said classes are still expected in August but they will evaluate it. I don’t see them running any large upgrade classes until you see at least two months of solid hiring again minimum. They are being cautious with Pratt issues developing and close to zero attrition.
Seems from the email to check airmen and instructors that they aren't too worried about the pratt issues... But I guess we will see. I don't understand why every pilot never got the emails.
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Old 07-07-2024, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spooldup
Seems from the email to check airmen and instructors that they aren't too worried about the pratt issues... But I guess we will see. I don't understand why every pilot never got the emails.
The tone seemed to calm the rumors but staffing is not currently an issue so the company won’t rush to add pilots to the payroll. They staff the airline monthly and we’re rolling into the slow months. They will staff Nov Dec rush with premium and won’t need the numbers again until the spring break rush.
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Old 07-08-2024, 08:45 PM
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Bid is out. Another tiny class of 10 coming. 10 upgrades.
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Old 07-08-2024, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Stayontarget
Bid is out. Another tiny class of 10 coming. 10 upgrades.
Didn't see that on Flica but i don't have my ipad to look at docunet
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Old 07-08-2024, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Stayontarget
Bid is out. Another tiny class of 10 coming. 10 upgrades.
not apparent to me.. do we even have a July class? Everyone said july was cancelled. I see + 10 CA upgrades, no FO (no - either). Unclear to me if there is an FO class or not.

Last time there was +20 CAs and -10 FO, for a new hire class of 10 FO. Is it a given that if there was no new hire class, that we would see -10 FO slots?

Nice surprise if we're actually hiring FOs this month after all the chatter about july being scrapped.
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Old 07-08-2024, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LifetimeCFI
not apparent to me.. do we even have a July class? Everyone said july was cancelled. I see + 10 CA upgrades, no FO (no - either). Unclear to me if there is an FO class or not.

Last time there was +20 CAs and -10 FO, for a new hire class of 10 FO. Is it a given that if there was no new hire class, that we would see -10 FO slots?

Nice surprise if we're actually hiring FOs this month after all the chatter about july being scrapped.
August new hire class 10 people. They will fill the spots after the 10 FO’s upgrade.
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Old 07-08-2024, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Planedrive
August new hire class 10 people. They will fill the spots after the 10 FO’s upgrade.
I don't think this is correct.

When they hired 58 of us in April, the upgrades + 'new' FO slots = the new hire class size. Same for March. Unless I'm reading it wrong, the two should always equal out to 0.

Now you may be correct that the August class will backfill those CA upgrades, but that doesn't mean that the August class will be 10. Would imply a *minimum* of 10 to me. But it seems likely that it would be more. guess we'll find out in ~4 weeks.
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Old 07-09-2024, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LifetimeCFI
I don't think this is correct.

When they hired 58 of us in April, the upgrades + 'new' FO slots = the new hire class size. Same for March. Unless I'm reading it wrong, the two should always equal out to 0.

Now you may be correct that the August class will backfill those CA upgrades, but that doesn't mean that the August class will be 10. Would imply a *minimum* of 10 to me. But it seems likely that it would be more. guess we'll find out in ~4 weeks.
No. The Captains + FO should equal the incoming class size. If you are going to hire some pilots you need to creat base positions for them first. That way current pilots on property can bid for those positions and then the new hire class will be able to bid for what’s left.

The bid size is always the maximum number of incoming pilots for the next class.
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