fcoolaiddrinker

So you’re looking to lower alv and increase res? That’s going to be a fairly costly proposal with some downside for a process that most were lucky to get one or two trades/swaps. Not to mention rig was destroyed with splits. Maybe ask a rep if thier looking to make a proposal? I have no idea and it’s far down on my list.
Company would be looking to lower guarantee if you want to lower alv (below existing window). I believe DL guarantee lineholder or res is tied to alv. So now we need to go into anything that’s based on guarantee (Ltd is one) and change that language.

You do make a good point with the fdo however the company is lowering the value of that language monthly. It can’t last forever once most bases are fully staffed. Sometimes when your enemy is making mistakes you just let them.

LibertyBiberty

I've gotten one reserve assignment in 2 months. I honestly wouldn't mind actually flying for once..

fcoolaiddrinker

A res not getting used is not a day off. Check the contractual definition and 117.

LifetimeCFI

Sure, but in my eyes, if I'm in base and don't have to put my uniform on I don't consider that a day of work necessarily but I get what you're getting at.

fcoolaiddrinker

It costs management money on a balance sheet and it’s counted in the economic cost of our proposal. It’s Pay rate times 4.17. This isn’t unscheduled 135 or part 91 operations where not working is resting. I’m on duty, I can’t go make $ doing something else.

spooldup

You can think that generally.

But the question is, can you drink a beer? If not, you're working.

Even if I am in base and at home while on RSV, I always have the idea of getting called in the back of my head and can't do too much or go too far since I might have to be at the airport in 2hrs. that is work.

Pigpen

Some people are better cut out for reserve than others, and more power to them. As for me, every moment I'm on call is somewhere between mildly annoying and down right excruciating.

If I have no control over, and can't reliably say what I'm going to be doing over the next few hours or days... I'm working.
If I am required to answer my phone and respond to messages telling me when and what I have to do... I'm working.
If I have to be premptively prepared to fly a full day or more regardless of whether they call... I'm working.

If given the choice between the worst line I can think of and a month of RSV where they "probably" won't call, I'll take the crappy line every time. At least I'll know what I have to deal with, and have a few more days actually off.

dracir1

Well, you can't drink (SC only) and you need to be within 2 hours of base, but you most likely will work less than 6-9 days a month. Many people schedule appointments, run other businesses, take classes, etc after purposely bidding RSV knowing that even though they may have to be somewhat flexible, they will enjoy many more days of non-work than a lineholder (and work far less). There are airlines that use the crap out of their reserves...maybe at some point we will too. But for right now, it's not even close. Any time LOAs are offered, bidding reserve is essentially days off.

The TWO critical reserve items we need to address in the next CBA is the pay rate time of 4.17 (should be 5 - which would lead to 15 days of reserve a month something like SWA) and the making it all LC (with incentives to converting to SC and/or airport standby).

dracir1

As you mentioned, it's all personal preference...I'll take LC reserve over a line right now. I'm not senior enough to work weekdays only w/o redeyes so watching football all weekend w/ a 12 hour call out with a beer while BBQing beats any triangle route for 6 hrs of credit.

The annoying part is the LC to SC conversion 6x a month.

fcoolaiddrinker

Maybe we need to add in “essentially a day off” to the definitions. We can throw in unused ava and same day cancellations. For some reason you like to make management arguments from time to time.