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Old 07-12-2024, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mooneyguy
it has been cancelled for a while now. Training dept claims a big upgrade class for AUG which is why they cancelled the new hire
10 upgrades in August is not exactly big class.
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Old 07-12-2024, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by spooldup
AFAIK this has been offered in the past? Seems like a non event/union busting tactic.

I really can't believe it is extremely significant, we have a good bit of open time, low reserves and premium popping up that is going cancelled because no one picks it up on the FO side.
There have been many times in the past they have offered one month, unpaid leaves. It's an easy way to cut cost during low travel/ block hours times.

I didn't see how many colas were being offered but I bet every one of them is taken. If you can afford to take a month without pay, it's pretty cool. Go to Australia or something. Remodel the house...

Clearly they are reducing the block hours in Sept to try and get the train put back on the tracks. Watch the on time performance in Sept get good again and then they will add a ton of flights in Nov and the operation will fall apart again
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Old 07-13-2024, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Crockett
Just that I'm still in the hiring pool and that if I don't want to fly for them to let them know. But I do want to fly for them lol.
if you don’t mind me asking, how long have you been waiting from the Cjo and how many hours total you had at the Cjo?
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Old 07-13-2024, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Nemack85
if you don’t mind me asking, how long have you been waiting from the Cjo and how many hours total you had at the Cjo?
At the time of CJO in February I had around 1600 hours with my ATP. I've kept them updated and currently have just under 2000 hours.
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Old 07-13-2024, 08:21 AM
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At the time of CJO in February I had around 1600 hours with my ATP. I've kept them updated and currently have just under 2000 hours.

Personally given the industry currently I would apply everywhere and see what you can get. It’s not looking like we will be having huge classes. I know there’s a pretty big backlog of guys waiting from CJOs that were given last year. I know that’s not what you want to hear but the longer you wait the farther down the seniority list you will be. I’d apply at a regional that is wholly owned that you don’t really care to work for on the legacy side that’ll make your life easier if you want to jump to the competitor. Or you can wait. To each their own. But just seeing how the slow down has been hard to say when we will be getting through our list of CJOs that have been waiting.
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Old 07-13-2024, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
There have been many times in the past they have offered one month, unpaid leaves. It's an easy way to cut cost during low travel/ block hours times.

I didn't see how many colas were being offered but I bet every one of them is taken. If you can afford to take a month without pay, it's pretty cool. Go to Australia or something. Remodel the house...

Clearly they are reducing the block hours in Sept to try and get the train put back on the tracks. Watch the on time performance in Sept get good again and then they will add a ton of flights in Nov and the operation will fall apart again

So the COLAs will likely be a short term, optional only option? Relatively new hire here, just trying to confirm the sky is in fact not falling..
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Old 07-13-2024, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LibertyBiberty
So the COLAs will likely be a short term, optional only option? Relatively new hire here, just trying to confirm the sky is in fact not falling..
Yea is been very common before on months between busy months. Prob only September but maybe October too.
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Old 07-13-2024, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LibertyBiberty
So the COLAs will likely be a short term, optional only option? Relatively new hire here, just trying to confirm the sky is in fact not falling..
sky isn’t falling. It’s not completely uncommon. Fall is typically slow and when you have a group like the fo’s here who pick up every scrap they can they don’t need as many. Barry sends his thanks to those types.
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Old 07-13-2024, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by av8nallday
Personally given the industry currently I would apply everywhere and see what you can get. It’s not looking like we will be having huge classes. I know there’s a pretty big backlog of guys waiting from CJOs that were given last year. I know that’s not what you want to hear but the longer you wait the farther down the seniority list you will be. I’d apply at a regional that is wholly owned that you don’t really care to work for on the legacy side that’ll make your life easier if you want to jump to the competitor. Or you can wait. To each their own. But just seeing how the slow down has been hard to say when we will be getting through our list of CJOs that have been waiting.
I'm currently at a wholly owned regional and I've thought about staying but I'm looking to leave because our pay rates aren't in the contract so instead of working for a company that is fighting to keep it's pay when the LOA runs out, I'd rather be somewhere that's fighting for more pay.
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Old 07-13-2024, 02:47 PM
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I'm currently at a wholly owned regional and I've thought about staying but I'm looking to leave because our pay rates aren't in the contract so instead of working for a company that is fighting to keep it's pay when the LOA runs out, I'd rather be somewhere that's fighting for more pay.
don't kid yourself...... the pay at frontier will be stagnant for a long time
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