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Old 10-18-2023, 06:51 AM
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The day after BB said he predicted a 30M-70M loss, they cut the fares in half. A ticket to many cities was 7 cents! I think they are taking it into bankruptcy to void the union work rules. They are cut throat...
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Old 10-18-2023, 07:42 AM
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I think they are selling more and more of the low fare tickets to fill the planes during off peak travel times.
CEO Scott Kirby: "I think that consumers have voted and as long as United has seats in the market, people are not going to fly a @FlyFrontier or [MENTION=25357]Spirit[/MENTION]Airlines. I think they have to change the business model to make it attractive for customers or they're going to go out of business."
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Old 10-18-2023, 08:06 AM
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CEO Scott Kirby: "I think that consumers have voted and as long as United has seats in the market, people are not going to fly a @FlyFrontier or [MENTION=25357]Spirit[/MENTION]Airlines. I think they have to change the business model to make it attractive for customers or they're going to go out of business."
I really don't understand what he's trying to accomplish with all these shots at Frontier. Just seems odd.
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Old 10-18-2023, 08:59 AM
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I really don't understand what he's trying to accomplish with all these shots at Frontier. Just seems odd.
It is odd, but I am not mad about it... It will probably get investors questioning our super smart leadership.

I foresee a management shakeup happening in the next 6 months. Poor profits. Poor morale. Poor reviews. You can only cut costs so much while treating customers like dirt before it catches up with you.
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Old 10-18-2023, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeFever1
I really don't understand what he's trying to accomplish with all these shots at Frontier. Just seems odd.
Are they shots? Or is he calling a spade a spade? Guess it depends on how you look at it
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Old 10-18-2023, 10:59 AM
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I really don't understand what he's trying to accomplish with all these shots at Frontier. Just seems odd.
“It's the old adage: You can make a pizza so cheap, nobody will eat it. You can make an airline so cheap, nobody will fly it.”

Gordon Bethune said this many years ago….
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Old 10-18-2023, 06:43 PM
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I really don't understand what he's trying to accomplish with all these shots at Frontier. Just seems odd.
United management has had a thing for Frontier for a long time. Theres a long history of United CEOs smack talking Frontier. I think we are their favorite punching bag.

They should have bought us in 2008 for $38 Million when they could have. Stupid mistake in their part
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United management has had a thing for Frontier for a long time. Theres a long history of United CEOs smack talking Frontier. I think we are their favorite punching bag.

They should have bought us in 2008 for $38 Million when they could have. Stupid mistake in their part
They sure like hiring our pilots though. 75 percent of PRIA requests are from them.
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Old 10-19-2023, 01:12 PM
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They sure like hiring our pilots though. 75 percent of PRIA requests are from them.
Considering the fact that UA is about to have unfilled DEN Captain slots that a new hire can get (or get forced into), I would suspect that a bunch more Frontier folks are ready to pull the trigger! Jan 2025 2nd year Captain pay of $345ish/hour makes it only a one year pay hit before your finances are back in the positive column. Hope the PRIA folks are ready.
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Old 10-20-2023, 05:47 AM
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Considering the fact that UA is about to have unfilled DEN Captain slots that a new hire can get (or get forced into), I would suspect that a bunch more Frontier folks are ready to pull the trigger! Jan 2025 2nd year Captain pay of $345ish/hour makes it only a one year pay hit before your finances are back in the positive column. Hope the PRIA folks are ready.
Just forgetting you will be on eternal reserve and terrible lines for years though.

Not everyone wants to throw away their QOL for pay.
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