Earnings Call October 25 / Predictions ?
10-14-2023, 05:44 PM
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that is one angle. The other is Barry and his doom and gloom is contract negotiations. They don’t want to pay anything close to what AA/UA/DAL just gave their pilots. So let’s create doom and gloom. We cannot afford it. We’re losing bookings, recession, blah blah blah. Funny it’s only us and spirit other wise domestic demand seems to be fine everywhere else.
10-14-2023, 06:28 PM
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that is one angle. The other is Barry and his doom and gloom is contract negotiations. They don’t want to pay anything close to what AA/UA/DAL just gave their pilots. So let’s create doom and gloom. We cannot afford it. We’re losing bookings, recession, blah blah blah. Funny it’s only us and spirit other wise domestic demand seems to be fine everywhere else.
10-14-2023, 06:33 PM
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If Frontier is predicting a loss, I'm pretty sure we are going to post a loss.
Load factors actually seem to be back up a little to me. But as soon as school started in August, I started flying a lot of half empty planes. And fuel prices were high too. I see fuel is just starting to come down a little now, but this last quarter was pretty ugly. I'm sure we will post a small loss.
Load factors actually seem to be back up a little to me. But as soon as school started in August, I started flying a lot of half empty planes. And fuel prices were high too. I see fuel is just starting to come down a little now, but this last quarter was pretty ugly. I'm sure we will post a small loss.
10-15-2023, 06:32 AM
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that is one angle. The other is Barry and his doom and gloom is contract negotiations. They don’t want to pay anything close to what AA/UA/DAL just gave their pilots. So let’s create doom and gloom. We cannot afford it. We’re losing bookings, recession, blah blah blah. Funny it’s only us and spirit other wise domestic demand seems to be fine everywhere else.
10-15-2023, 11:12 AM
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we have credit cards too. It all comes back to customer service and product execution. We don't have to roll out the red carpet. Customers don't even have to love us. They just need to get from point A to B (actually get there in a reasonable amount of time) without being completely mistreated. If they can do that there is a market and money to be made.
10-15-2023, 03:54 PM
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we have credit cards too. It all comes back to customer service and product execution. We don't have to roll out the red carpet. Customers don't even have to love us. They just need to get from point A to B (actually get there in a reasonable amount of time) without being completely mistreated. If they can do that there is a market and money to be made.
10-15-2023, 07:19 PM
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Right. But simultaneously it's sad and encouraging to know that we easily could. Just a slight change in attitude and execution from management and we could provide a halfway decent product while still being the lowest cost operator.
It really wouldn't take much to make this place a decent airline. Hopefully the next CEO can make a few positive changes
It really wouldn't take much to make this place a decent airline. Hopefully the next CEO can make a few positive changes
10-15-2023, 09:05 PM
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10-16-2023, 05:44 AM
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